Gut Rumbles

January 19, 2006

this ain't right

I put it on my list of American icons. I picked it as one of the top 10 guns in American history. I've shot one.

Winchester is going to stop making them. I think it's a crying shame.


Guess i'd better stash the old Model 94 and the model 70 I now have. Maybe pick up a couple more of the 94's. Hunting season is closed and the yearly buyers are now selling.

Posted by: scrapiron on January 19, 2006 12:42 PM

Suffer the same fate as Zippo lighters.

Posted by: jamesoldguy on January 19, 2006 12:50 PM

No more Big Bore 94? Insanity.

Posted by: Florida Bill on January 19, 2006 12:51 PM

I had a chance to buy one, but I opted for the Marlin 30-30 replica instead. I preferred the side-eject feature on the Marlin.

Posted by: Acidman on January 19, 2006 12:52 PM

Yeah, I prefer the side eject myself but the model 70 bolt action is one hell of a rifle. Wish I still had at least one of the several I have bought and sold over the years. The model 12 and 1200 pump shotguns are also smooth pumps for the money.

Posted by: GUYK on January 19, 2006 01:47 PM

Damn junior frogs. Let's buy a Belgian Icon and shut it down. I've always liked Winchesters, but I don't have one and can't afford one. And I sure won't be able to once the value skyrockets. Damn junior frogs.

Posted by: ScottG on January 19, 2006 02:01 PM

Scott: They're shutting it down because sales are bad. See, even Rob bought a Marlin instead!

If there was enough money in making the 94 to, er, make money off of it, Herstal wouldn't be closing the New Haven plant.

(And if someone else thinks there is enough money in it, they can start making copies or even license the name and make "real" ones.

Hell, I wouldn't be half surprised if Norinco bought the tooling and started making them in China. Though thanks to President Clinton, IIRC, we can't get Norinco guns anymore...)

(Full disclosure: I owned a 94 for a while, it was a pefectly good gun. But I like my Savage 99F even more.)

Posted by: Sigivald on January 19, 2006 02:29 PM

I have my grampa's '94, which he bought to kill a rancher with who had horsewhipped him in public for sparking his daughter. Beautiful rifle, with only 5 numbers in the serial number. I also have the '94AE, in .44 mag. It is so accurate, that it is boring to shoot. Well, I guess that just like my Colts, the value just went up. Not that I'd ever sell.

Posted by: Bane on January 19, 2006 03:40 PM

Sigivald, Norinco stuff can still be had in the USA. They still sell their shotguns here, a clone of the 870 and of the 1897.

I'm pretty sure the Clinton ban only addresses semi-auto stuff. The only reason (IRC) presidents can ban this stuff via EO is thanks to the 'sporting purposes' clause in the 1968 GCA and it's pretty hard to argue that a lever gun has no suitable sporting purpose.

... not that I'll ever buy anything from Norinco.

Posted by: Justin Buist on January 19, 2006 06:04 PM

Yep. That's a damn shame. I have a few of the model 94 rifles. I have always liked them. Too bad but its typical of what the USA is becoming. You build something thats worth a damn and some fag ass motherfucker will make them in a foreign country using slave labor for 1/10 the price and drive the american company out of business. It just gripes my ass goddamit. Guess I'll have to stock up on Winchesters now so my grandkids will have a real one when they grow up.

Posted by: assrot on January 19, 2006 07:14 PM

I preferred the side-eject feature on the Marlin.Maybe that has something to do with this. "It would be like Chevrolet going out of business or Chevrolet being made in Japan or China," firearms historian Ned Schwing said. "Winchester is an American legend, whether you're a gun person or not."My Winchester Model 70 Classic Featherweight (.308 Win) was made in Japan, not Connecticut (or Detroit, for that matter). Since USRAC bought the rights to produce Winchester rifles and shotguns from Olin, how many products have actually been made in the USA? (Depressing note: Browning is (or was) also wholly owned by USRAC.)

Posted by: Scott Crawford on January 20, 2006 12:50 AM

Seems like the problem is they last too well, so nobody has to go out and buy a replacement

Posted by: Chris on January 20, 2006 10:04 AM
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