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September 21, 2005

another reason to ban suvs

We greedy, oil-consuming humans are not only destroying OUR planet by driving SUVs and burning fossil fuels-- oh, no... it's MUCH worse than that.

We're causing global warming on mars now. BWHAHAHAHAAA!!!

How will the environmentalists blame THIS ONE on CO2?

(If the link doesn't work, just try it again in a few minutes. It got 'lanched today and may be having trouble handling the traffic.)

Comments

It's that robot rover thingie. It may be smaller than a Prius and run on batteries or solar cells or whatever, but it's all-wheel-drive and therefore it's an SUV!!!

Seriously, though, I think most of the atmosphere there is CO2, but there's so little atmosphere overall that it's still colder than a witch's tit in an icebox under a glacier on a cloudless winter night at the South Pole.

I'd bet the reason Mars is getting warmer has to do with solar output. And that means if the earth is getting warmer it's almost certainly for the same reason since our planet intercepts a whole lot more solar radiation than Mars does.

And I've tried several times this morning to get to that JPL page you linked and it's still not loading.

Posted by: McGehee on September 21, 2005 11:29 AM

Saw that. I guess next we'll cause the Sun to go super-nova...

The site got Instalanched...say what you will about Glenn, a link from him can cause a server to scream and fall over in a dead faint, it's little portals smoking.

Posted by: Wayne on September 21, 2005 11:30 AM

It's all Bush's fault.....

Posted by: BobG on September 21, 2005 12:42 PM

BobG, you beat me to it. The enviro-wack-offs aren't going to blame anyone other than BusHitler...

Posted by: JJW on September 21, 2005 01:27 PM

Well, at least here is one meteorologist who is saying "Settle down, it's just a cycle, not long term global warming". regarding hurricaines.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9410439/

Posted by: cythen on September 21, 2005 01:35 PM

Absolutely correct, cythen. From what I've read, hurricanes activity tend to run in a cycle that lasts about 30 years.

Posted by: BobG on September 21, 2005 02:14 PM

Jesus, I don't know if you're being serious in your scorn, playing the devil's advocate, or if you're just that ignorant, but I imagine the "global warming" on Mars is part of the same natural cycle of global climate change that happens naturally on Earth.

That being said, the current case of global warming that we are undergoing is far more severe and is influenced by forces that are much less natural and much more man-made. Natural climate change, being a long term process, doesn't happen in the scale of a lifetime. What we are seeing is not natural.

Do you honestly believe we can live like we do and not make an impact on the environment?

Posted by: Jake on September 21, 2005 06:12 PM

When I saw that headline over at Basil's Blog, I was hopping mad.

Good one!

Posted by: Don Surber on September 21, 2005 06:18 PM

What the hell? This is a bad thing? Maybe we will cause it to warm up and develop a breathable atmosphere. Then we can go there and start a new world with the lessons we learned from fucking up this one. We need one rule though.

No one that has ever been a politician or upper management and no one that is related to any such people in any way is allowed to take part in setting up the new world. In fact, I say we leave the fucking dumbasses here on Earth. Fuck'em.

Posted by: assrot on September 21, 2005 06:37 PM

Jake, "What we are seeing...". What are you seeing? Average temperature to increase by 1.8 degrees over a century. I bet the folks in Goose Bay will appreciate (almost) both degrees. Barking moonbat.

Posted by: Larry on September 21, 2005 11:33 PM

A volcano erupting jacks more with the atmosphere than we do driving our eeeeeevil cars. Besides, lookie here, the UN even says the ozone layer is healing, before they say well don't take this as an all clear, we might still all die. LOL.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9369129/

Posted by: Cythen on September 22, 2005 02:03 AM


"Absolutely correct, cythen. From what I've read, hurricanes activity tend to run in a cycle that lasts about 30 years."
BobG

Now this is the reasoning of a complete genius. If this increased hurricane activity is ONLY a 30 year cycle, and the last one alone is gonna cost the U.S. taxpayers over $200 billion, then where do you see our economy 30 years from now dumbass? Why don't you move down to the Gulf Coast and ride them out for the next three fucking decades you flaming idiot. Damn. Keep reading moron.

Posted by: Hugh on September 22, 2005 04:21 AM

As I recall, I said the cycle runs 30 years; it rises to a peak and then dies down. You may wish to read what people write before having a fit and calling people names; I realize you may not have been exposed to courteous behavior in your lifetime, but it is common among many people in civilized cultures.

Posted by: BobG on September 22, 2005 10:57 AM

"That being said, the current case of global warming that we are undergoing is far more severe and is influenced by forces that are much less natural and much more man-made."

Far more severe than what? You're just asserting BS without any proof whatsoever. Exactly how much of it IS man-made?

Posted by: JB on September 23, 2005 06:55 AM

I'm glad to see that you haven't totally forgotten our argument concerning SUV's.
How are you enjoying the price at the pumps these days? I have heard that it could go as high as $5 before these storms are through with us.
But look at it this way. A lot of those folks that bought their big vehicles claimed it as a business expense and wrote it off their taxes. I suspect that they can probably write off the fuel as well, so they'll never feel a thing while they drive the economy right into the tank.
Cheers!

Posted by: Lee on September 23, 2005 11:27 AM


"As I recall, I said the cycle runs 30 years; it rises to a peak and then dies down. You may wish to read what people write before having a fit and calling people names; I realize you may not have been exposed to courteous behavior in your lifetime, but it is common among many people in civilized cultures."
BobG

You don't have to recall Bob, because I pasted and copied exactly what you wrote. And upon reading your weak comments, I realized you may not have been exposed to common sense in your lifetime and that is why I called you a dumbass, a flaming idiot, and a moron. You have still yet to prove me wrong, so please go fuck yourself and I mean that in the most courteous way possible.

Posted by: Hugh on September 24, 2005 04:03 AM

"I realized you may not have been exposed to common sense in your lifetime"
Hugh

It may suprise you to know that there is actually no such thing as common sense.
Contrary to popular belief what is “common” to you is based on your own set of experiences and beliefs and it will often significantly differ from that of others. So, what we “think” is common sense isn’t necessarily “common” at all.

Also "real world problems" are often highly complex and dynamic...so a "simplistic" or “common” view usually won’t always work.
Therefore perhaps you should take you own advise and "read on"

Although the hurricane cycle runs for 30 years, that does not mean that it will be exactly the same for 30 years. This relates that it is a cycle. As all definitions of cycle portrays an interval of time during which a characteristic, often regularly repeated event or sequence of events occurs this does not mean that the hurricane will repeat themselves as seen by Rita and Katrina it just means that it could be repeated. Regardless of the economic effect every event in history runs on a cycle and reoccurs whether the same effects are realized or not. Therefore to scoff that historically the patterns of hurricanes run on a cycle of 30 years is nothing but unvalidated bashing, and then to request proved wrong. Where in your statement was there something that needed to be proved wrong. Was it the question of where the economy would be in 30 years if the hurricanes repeated themself? That is clearly a projectory question and requires no proofing, only mathematical calculations.

Perhaps the proof you are requesting that despite your comment on common sense, you truly do not have the education, or motivation to investigate the information yourself as far as historical data on hurricanes, or global warming and what it all actually mean.

Posted by: MJR on May 26, 2007 05:43 PM
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