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August 07, 2005

i need help

I consulted with an expert, and I now can operate my new digital camera, and even transfer the pictures to my computer. But they all come out HUGE and I don't know how to compress them. Hell, they're so damn big that MT won't upload them.

I figure that I can email them to someone else, have them copy and shrink them, then mail them BACK to me, but there's got to be an easier way to do this.

Anybody got an idea?

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Usually digital cameras come with photo software (woohoo!) that you could install on your computer; I know my Hewlitt-Packard camera did (but Adobe Photoshop is really the way to go--friendly advice).
Anyhow, if you do happen to have software, you could probably just go into one of the menu options and resize the photo to make it a bit smaller.

Posted by: erica on August 7, 2005 06:24 PM

I just went through the same hassle with my new camera.
Someone pointed me to http://www.irfanview.com/

The price is great (it's free!). I was able to resize over 100 pics of my newborn daughter into e-mail-size files in less than 3 minutes.

Posted by: Mac on August 7, 2005 06:32 PM

My Nikon 8700 has a feature that allows you to make a smaller copy (right on the camera) You press down on the shutter release (while in the viewing mode) and it says "Make smaller copy of photo?" (select either YES or NO)

Posted by: Ruth on August 7, 2005 06:33 PM

I am using the camera software to edit and name the picture then transferring to My Documents where I can find it. After I transfer I either send it back to the camera software or delete it. This Wally World Kodak I bought and it software is so easy to use any five year old with a degree in computer engineering could figure it out.

Posted by: GUYK on August 7, 2005 06:36 PM

Have a look at Picasa. It's by the folks who did Blogger, it's free and does a reasonably credible job of getting the pictures off the digital camera, is easy to use and has a few simple filtering effects, sizing and so forth.

One other trick is to use something like MS FrontPage's autothumbnail feature to make smaller versions of the images. That's somewhat useful and is what I use for the images on my blog with some refinement in MS Paint if I don't like the thumbnail all that much.

Posted by: tincanman on August 7, 2005 06:46 PM

Edit pics with windows Paint

Go into Image tab (4th from the left)

Select strech/skew

dial it down to 25%

Voila... done.

Posted by: Yogimus on August 7, 2005 07:06 PM

K.I.S.S: Microsoft PowerToys for WindowsXP (assuming that's what you're running). Download the image resizer from: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

It's my experience any software that came with the camera should be tossed in the trash with the box. YMMV.

Posted by: Matilda444 on August 7, 2005 07:21 PM

Rob, for future photos. There is a setting in your camera, where you can change the quality from "best" (should read HUGE) to "good". For 90% of your photos you can not tell the difference between the two modes and you can fit more pics in your memory stick between transfers.

Posted by: Rey on August 7, 2005 07:56 PM

I use Paint Shop Pro. All the Sadie pictures start out huge. I use "resize" and make a copy 400 pixels wide to fit neatly in the column, and a copy 800 pixels wide to open as a link if you click on the picture, for a better look while still being modest in size.

Posted by: Jay on August 7, 2005 07:59 PM

And make sure you save them as JPEG files, not bitmaps, for the sake of bandwidth.

Posted by: Jay on August 7, 2005 08:00 PM

Irfanview rocks. I highly recommend it--it's what we use (we have a 6 megapixel camera.)

If you have the option in whatever package you use (I know Irfanview does) make sure you resample, not resize, your pictures. The results come out looking better.

Posted by: Rick C on August 7, 2005 08:36 PM

daaaaaaamn....you gotta buncha camera experts out there!

Posted by: erica on August 7, 2005 08:48 PM

I use Paint Shop Pro 7 - an older version, but very adequate.

I double click on the photo I want to change. First I go to "Image" then "Resize". I put "650" in the first set of boxes on top that say "pixels" - the program automatically fills in the second figure. Then I click "OK" and the picture is smaller. Then I click on "File" and "Save As" - once that screen comes up, click on "Options". Another screen comes up - click on "Run Optimizer". Make the numbers go up and down until the picture on the right says, "compressed 51,000 bytes". Anything around 50-55000 bytes is ok for publishing and emailing. Once you've done that, click "ok". You can now give the pic a name and save it where you want. When you want to publish it , it's in a size that is easy to post anywhere.

Posted by: suzeisnotfooledbyislam on August 7, 2005 10:36 PM

One caveat. ALWAYS do a "save as" when you are done tweaking an ORIGINAL image. Then give it another name, using the original name with a suffix ie. 2822_2. I usually make a subfolder called tweaked images and keep the originals in a folder called imaginatively enough "originals". Just FYI....

Posted by: zipity on August 7, 2005 10:44 PM

OR you could buy a disposable camera...

Posted by: Yogimus on August 7, 2005 11:13 PM

most photo editing programs (i use photoshop) have a way to size the image. corel programs are usually more available than photoshop (which, if you can't get someone to pirate it for you, costs quite a bit). your camera might have also come with software that will let you tinker with the photos as well.

barring any of that, you can resize the image in your HTML code, but everyone's computer will still have to download the huge file, even if it displays smaller when it finally appears.

Posted by: not-troll beth on August 7, 2005 11:16 PM

Thanks, folks!

Posted by: Acidman on August 7, 2005 11:40 PM

If you have a decent camara keep the pics big. If you want to make prints out of them you want all the data you can get to work with.

Anyway, for web use, whatever software you use resize the image to 72 ppi. Anything larger for display on a monitor is nothing but a waste of bandwidth.

If you can get your grimey hands on Photoshop you simply open up the image, go to IMAGE>IMAGE SIZE and then type in 72 inside the RESOLUTION field.

Then go to FILE>SAVE FOR WEB.

Takes about three seconds and you can bring a 1.5 meg file down to about 45k or smaller and still retain most of the image quality.

The problem is getting your grimey hands on Photoshop.

Posted by: Daniel Medley on August 8, 2005 05:58 AM

Eh, I resize photos for my blog with software known as The Gimp. But then again, I'm one of them freaky Linux geeks. If you're on Windows, then Irfanview (already recommended above) is the way to go. It can resize, and do some other basic photo-retouching tricks as well.

Posted by: Paul Burgess on August 8, 2005 10:02 AM

I recommend Picasa, import them into there, and you can do some easy touchups (adjust lighting etc) and then re-export at usable sizes. Plus it makes it easy to catalog photos.

http://picasa.google.com/index.html

Posted by: Buddy on August 8, 2005 11:51 AM

Everybody who is advocating Photoshop, PaintShop pro etc...

This is Rob we're talking about here. Making him use Photoshop would make his head explode! It'd be like giving him a dual-processor Linux computer running Drupal and asking him to post to his blog. (That's the geek equivalent of 'bazooka to kill a mosquito', by the way.) He wants the simplest way to accomplish his needs, not the most sophisticated program that also happens to have that capability.

Also, Daniel, about your "resize the image to 72 ppi". This confuses a lot of people. Resolution has nothing to do with how an image will appear on a monitor. The only thing that matters on a monitor is the dimensions of the image in pixels.

An 800x600 pixel image looks the same size on screen and is the same file size, whether it's 72 dpi or 720 dpi.

The reason this misconception has been able to survive, I think, is because in Photoshop (and others), when you change an image's resolution, PS automatically changes it's dimensions, but in reality, the 2 are totally unrelated for screen display.

Monitors don't understand resolution - only file dimensions of length and width in pixels. Resolution only matters when printing.

Paul

Posted by: Light & Dark on August 8, 2005 12:15 PM

That's why I recommended Irfanview. It's very easy to adjust the size of a picture. You open a picture, hit Ctrl+R, and the Resize/Resample image dialog box shows up. ON the lower right, the Resample (Better quality) radio button should already be checked (select it if it's not) and in the dropdown right below that, Lanczos filter (slowest) should also be chosen--if not, choose it. Then just pick the size you want in the upper right--all teh standard ones, 640x480, 800x600, etc., are there, and hit OK. Let it think (takes longer on slower computers) a while, and then do a Save As (not save, just like someone else mentioned) so you don't destroy the original version of the picture. Piece o' cake; I just walked thru the process as I typed these instructions. Even my computer-illiterate grandma should be able to handle it. :)

Posted by: Rick C on August 8, 2005 09:20 PM

The Image Resizer that comes with XP Powertoys does the trick, as at least one person has noted. Just right-click the pic, and tell it to resize. Very nice.

Posted by: Richard on August 8, 2005 09:32 PM

Also, Daniel, about your "resize the image to 72 ppi". This confuses a lot of people. Resolution has nothing to do with how an image will appear on a monitor. The only thing that matters on a monitor is the dimensions of the image in pixels.

Which is why an image in anything higher than 72 ppi is just a waste of bandwidth.

Posted by: Daniel Medley on August 8, 2005 11:38 PM
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