Gut Rumbles

July 20, 2005

this upsets me

Every time I read a story such as this one, I become depressed. I simply cannot understand it.

Don't get me wrong--- I KNOW that kids are sadistic little shits. Hell, I fired toads out of potato guns when I was young (very impressive to watch, but not so good for the toad) and I used fire-ant mounds as a torture device on many an occasion, when I caught something I just wanted to see the ants eat alive.

I also fought my brother tooth-and-nail, and he still has stitch-scars on his head from some of those battles. But I never intended to KILL him.

I've read East of Eden and I've seen the movie "The Bad Seed." I'm starting to realize that some people in this world are EVIL and SAVAGE from the day they are born. What kind of person does it take to whack an infant in the head with a two-by-four? It takes one sick fucker, that's what.

I don't believe we should make excuses for such people. They need to be removed from society and kept in a place where they cannot harm anyone else. Turn them loose again, and they'll kill somebody else. That's just how they are built.

I knew right from wrong when I was seven years old. Why didn't this little shitass?


I am sure some whiney ass bleeding heart will make all kinds of excuses for the little killer and he will be walking the streets some day and will kill again. We would put down a dog that did that but no, we can't do that to a human no matter how fucked up he is in the head.

Posted by: james old guy on July 20, 2005 11:05 AM

Sounds like the "board of education" was never used in his house. No pun intended

Posted by: gravdigr on July 20, 2005 11:16 AM

Well I thought that you'd obviously like to hear a comment from some whiney ass bleeding heart so here goes - No one in their right mind would excuse what this boy has done but rather than suggesting that we kill him or variations on that it may well help society as a whole if we consider what kids these days are brought up with. I don't need to list the mindless TV programmes and video games that never indicate what is right or wrong and never show what actually happens when someone is shot, hit etc.
Ther's also the fact that not all kids have a loving caring family that brings them up correctly.
I could go on and on but I guess that I'm probably wasting my time. Bottom line is -don't excuse this behaviour but surely it would be better to make him better? To suggest we 'put him down' beggars belief.

Posted by: Dave on July 20, 2005 11:21 AM

Okay, Dave. YOU adopt the little fucker and raise him right. I am certain that your compassion will change his ways. Heck--- you might even get him to baby-sit YOUR children.

Posted by: Acidman on July 20, 2005 11:47 AM

No - I'd like him to be in prison for the next 20 years learning the difference between right and wrong.
Don't I recall some phrase that 'sarcasm is the lowest form of wit!'

Posted by: Dave on July 20, 2005 12:02 PM

To the best of my knowledge, there are a few natural pyschopaths. But very few and I doubt this child was one of them. The odds are he was a difficult child to raise with some bad emotional issues who was raised exceptionally poorly.

If we need to find fault, this isn't the fault of society. It is mostly the fault of his parents. Regardless of tv shows or the bad life of the working poor, a great number of people still manage to raise their kids to be reasonable adults. Given that he killed a sibling a small piece of me is saying "evolution in action".

But finding fault isn't going to do much for the kid at this point. We're at the "what do you next?" step. If this was an ideal world, he should be placed in a great home and given a chance to grow up well. But that isn't going to happen regardless of how many times I click the heels of my red shoes.

Instead, the options suck for this kid. That's at least one thing both you two (Acidman and Dave) can agree on. You two are sooo alike sometimes.

Posted by: Susan on July 20, 2005 12:27 PM

Wow, me like Acidman, I never thought that I'd hear that!

Posted by: Dave on July 20, 2005 12:45 PM

"No - I'd like him to be in prison for the next 20 years learning the difference between right and wrong.
Don't I recall some phrase that 'sarcasm is the lowest form of wit!'"

Dave, I think what you meant to quote was:
"Wit is educated insolence." -- Aristotle

There wasn't any sarcasm that I detected in your statement, and the theme I got from it was exactly what you responded to Rob with "the next 20 years in jail" thing.

Label me archaic, but just think... in Moses' time, he'd already be stoned to death, and life would move on for the rest of society. Sounds so much simpler, right? I mean, lethal injection is painless, and they even swab the needle before proceeding. Perfectly humane for even a Liberal.

Posted by: LC Corey on July 20, 2005 12:46 PM

You posted about this kid a while ago when it first happened, and I stand by my original statements on the matter. Violent video games and television are some of the things that I can attribute this to, but I place the blame squarely with the parents for raising a child that didn't know right from wrong. Unfortunately, the parents aren't going to pay for their mistake...the kid is. And now he's going to get placed into a system that can't get it's shit together either. I agree...if the kid wasn't a lost cause before now, he certainly will be after 13 years in the juvenile system. Even so, I will NEVER call for the death of an 8 year old child.

And, for the record, the article says that English common law works under the assumption that kids can't form criminal intent until around age 15. That's a load of bullshit, in my opinion. I've worked with some pretty evil 12 year olds in my day that I wouldn't turn my back on.

At the very least, this should be quite an interesting trial.

Posted by: Chablis on July 20, 2005 01:09 PM

An eye for an eye I always say. Drag his ass off and shoot him. He's useless and he will always be useless.

Posted by: assrot on July 20, 2005 02:07 PM

Spend 20 years trying to teach him right from wrong? He ALREADY knows right from wrong! The little asswipe DOESN'T CARE!

I say, bludgeon the entire clan with 2x4's.I sure as hell don't want these pepole as neighbors.

Posted by: Bitchmama on July 20, 2005 02:53 PM

Yeah Acidbrain, you gotta wonder where a child becomes so ruthless to another living being. Perhaps he learned from watching his daddy shoot cats and fire toads out of potato guns and use fire-ant mounds as a torture device on many an occasion, when he caught something he just wanted to see the ants eat alive. Nahh...that couldn't be it.


Posted by: PJ on July 21, 2005 03:35 AM
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