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July 17, 2005

quote of the day

Let's get one thing straight--- I LIKE Texas (and most Texans I've met). The people are friendly, the wimmen are beautiful and they have GREAT food. Hell, they probably know how to chicken-fry a dog turd and make it taste good.

I just don't believe that Texas is a truly Southern state. That's NOT an insult--- it's just an observation. Texas is... well, TEXAS... and there's not another place like it in the United States.

Yeah, a lot of Southerners migrated there and kicked Santa Anna's ass when he got too uppity. Texas joined the right side in the War of Northern Aggression and fought bravely. Did I already mention that the wimmen are BEAUTIFUL? Texas has Southern roots, but it evolved into its own self over time.

"Anyway, you Crackers can call yourselves whatever you want -- you'd still rather associate with Texans than with Noo Yawkers."

Posted by Kim du Toit at July 17, 2005 04:01 PM

Damn right! In my several trips to Texas, I noticed two things (other than the BEAUTIFUL wimmen)--- #1) Texans look you in the eye when they speak to you. #2) If you're NOT from Texas, they don't treat you as if you had a contagious disease.

That's called GOOD MANNERS, which I've found to be sorely lacking in some parts of Yankee-land. Give me Texas (anywhere in Texas) over Cincinatti any day.

Texans appreciate firearms, too, which is a worthy Southern attribute. But it's NOT really a Southern state.


Comments

Shit, A-man, Texas WAS a sovreign nation at one time, recognized as such by the United States, Great Britain and other European powers.

Texas NEGOTIATED with the U.S. over becoming a state.

Texas was settled by southern boys (and by God Tennessee IS a southern state, whether you like it or not!!! So there!). Ol' Sam Houston did OK once you could get him sobered up enough to figure out he was in charge.

Texas is...well, Texas.

Posted by: Wayne on July 17, 2005 05:59 PM

Texas has Southern roots, but it evolved into its own self over time.
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That cant be denied, Rob...although East Texas (which on a north/south begins somewhere between Dallas and Tyler), if carved off to stand alone, would be a typical Deep South state.

And fer gosh sakes, I NEVER read anything on the topic that implied anything about Texas that wasnt a compliment of the highest order.

But anyway, I have written many posts...even published articles elswhere...on the subject of Texas being Southern...so will confine it here to the point that, speaking for myself, I think one reason many Texans resent being excluded from "The South" is NOT so much the desire to be where we arent wanted (LOL), but the presumed appropriation of the term by residents of certain other members of the Old Confederacy.
The apellation *The South" did NOT originate with Mississippi (my own ancestral home) or Georgia, etc. It came into common use after the nullification crisis of (1832?)..and became cemented in gerneral American understanding, to refer to the states which formed the Confederacy (of which Texas was a charter member...upper South states didnt join until war became inevitable).

Anyway, prior to about 1960 or so, nobody excluded Texas from the South (and for reasons too lengthy to get into here, LBJ and other Texas politicians and business concerns shoulder the blame for that).

I guess point is, that for a Texan like myself...who considers himself (backed up by raising and family history) every bit as Southern as any resident of Alabama or Georiga....the term "The South" calls to mind something we share into as much as any of our eastern cousins...even if from a very unique perspective. .

If one were to exclude Texas from the "Southeast"...I would agree.

Oh well...what the hell! LOL

Posted by: Randy (TexasReb) on July 17, 2005 06:07 PM

Think as you might my friend BUT there are a few good folks above the Mason Dixon Line

and a few good places to eat. Just as I am sure that not every resturaunt/eaterie/steak

house /fish joint below That imaginary border is frequented by nothing but model ,gun toting

registered republicans. God Bless America not the top or bottem or left or right sides but the whole got dam thing

Posted by: arathorn on July 17, 2005 06:27 PM

Very nice piece.
linked and quoted as update to
the intro to Samantha's link
thanks

Posted by: GrampaPinhead on July 17, 2005 06:39 PM

I watched a most excellent program on the History Channel a few weeks ago about Texas joining the union. Houston wanted it and Austin didn't.

Well, you know who won that fight, but it was still VERY interesting to see the political machinations that went on back then.

Posted by: Acidman on July 17, 2005 06:50 PM

Texas IS unique. It is a bit Southern, especially deep East Texas, a lot Western, a bit Cajun and the Mexican culture is apparent.
We are patriotic, not only do we believe in the Texas Revolution, we still believe in the American Revolution.

We have a deep religious morality(Christian, fuck Islam) even those of us who don't go to church. Among our claimed God given rights are gun ownership(that means more than one), the right to drive 75mph(so interesting when we have ice storms), and the right to boast and brag(not intended to put down anyone else, only to show love of Texas).

In my years in the Army I never noticed anyone else to gather and brag like Texans. There are so many songs about Texas that a nearby piano or a guitar almost guaranteed Texans to crank up the vocal cords.

I almost never ran across anyone that spoke badly of us Texans and even overseas there were plenty of people who had a surprising knowledge of Texas.

We have horned toads, armadillos and Longhorn cattle, not unique to Texas but always associated with the Lone Star state. The world knows of the Alamo and our state flag is one of the most recognized. Tex-Mex food, Western swing and outlaw country music, beef barbeque, the Texas A&M Aggies(jokes), etc. etc. AND OUR WOMMEN!!!!!!

I guess what I am trying to express is that I love Texas and want the rest of the world to also love Texas. Almost all Texans try to be ambassadors for the state.

We will express dislike of those who want to change our natural ways, that includes Yankee Liberals and muslim immigrants.

Posted by: TomR on July 17, 2005 07:12 PM

You skipped my state when talking about corn filled places, is this an insult or an oversight? Indiana has her share of rednecks, hell I'm related to most of them. :-)

I agree about Texas, southern in geography but not quite in manners. I love Texas, its just not the same as Alabama or Georgia.

Posted by: Alli on July 17, 2005 07:32 PM

Texas IS unique. It is a bit Southern, especially deep East Texas, a lot Western, a bit Cajun and the Mexican culture is apparent.
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The only thing is, the "West" is NOT a cultural region...but the post-bellum part part of the country settled after the War Between the States.

The South (generally the Old Confederacy and shading into the Border states) is an entity that share a commonality of history, speech, settlement patterns, political voting patterns, etc...that make it so.

Wyoming has NOTHING in common with Texas...even though both might be called "Western" if the alternative is "Eastern". The "Southern migration" (which Acidman has mentioned) pretty much stopped in Texas...and the impact on the culture was dominating and still is. On the other hand, say, Kansas, was settled by those from the upper-Midwest.

On a related tangent, a lot of those old cowtown gunfights were directly traceable to animosities existing between ex-Confederate Texans turned cowboy...and their previously Union opponents in the cowtowns of Kansas...or out in the "badlands" of New Mexico. They might do business with each other, by by gawd and high cotton, they didnt like each other! LOL

Posted by: Randy (TexasReb) on July 17, 2005 07:42 PM

There's definitely some perty girls from down 'round these here parts. ;)

The only people I have ever heard say naughty things about my state were either wusses who couldn't stand the heat of our summers, or they were/are whiney-ass barking moonbats pissed off that the President is from here.

Posted by: Blondage on July 17, 2005 10:22 PM


I hate to tell you Blondage, but Dubya ain't from here in Texas. That sorry, low-down piece of no-account varmit scoundrel was born in Connecticut. That makes him a yankee in addition to being a right-wing nut-job AWOL coward.

PJ

Posted by: PJ on July 17, 2005 10:47 PM

Ahhh...
the AWOL word again climbs its way out of the outhouse pit.
And brought to us by a "left-wing nut-job" moonbat.
Dan Rather hung up his forgery tools, probably in the outhouse. You been hanging out in Danny-boy's outhouse again?
Nimrod.

Posted by: Horrabin on July 17, 2005 11:04 PM

I totally agree with you Rob.

Texas is a place ALL IT'S OWN!

Posted by: Wendi on July 17, 2005 11:07 PM

I ignore trolls.


Posted by: Blondage on July 17, 2005 11:18 PM

Yah, and just see what fuckwads live here in Tejas.

http://synapticinterlude.blogspot.com/2005/07/how-to-win-friends-and-influence.html

Posted by: Surfie on July 18, 2005 09:53 PM


"I ignore trolls".
-Blondage

Especially when you can't prove us leftist trolls wrong huh?

PJ

Posted by: PJ on July 19, 2005 03:35 AM
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