Gut Rumbles

May 14, 2005

a bolt of sanity

Every now and then the courts get it right. The First Amendment says NOTHING about "separation of chuch and state," although a lot of people seem to think so today.

We have freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.

I am an athiest. But seeing the words "In God We Trust" on my money or on the front of a courthouse does not offend my delicate sensibilities. Nobody is trying to make me believe in God, except for the occasional Jehova's Witness who drops by my door uninvited, and I don't bother to shoot at them. I just run 'em off and go on my merry way.

People who attack any mention of God or Christian theology in any aspect of government are twisted little fucks who should get a real life. I wish they would show the same kind of outrage against excessive taxation and excessive government involvement in every aspect of our lives rather than circle-jerk over the Ten Commandments or "one nation, under God," in the pledge of allegiance.

But these people would rather stomp an ant than fight a dragon. They are assholes. What they really need to be worried about is the new God we have today, and that one has nothing to do with the Bible.

It is the Federal Government.


"We have freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion."

You got that shit right. Now, come try to force your tubthumping calvinist doctrine down my throat, and you'll leave my house running, but I don't give a shit what you do, away from me. Wanna put a nativity scene in your yard? great. Wanna put a star of david somewhere? Good for you. Trying to force your beliefs on me, whether they be Jehovah's witless, Catholic, or atheist, denies ME freedom of religion. Hope you can outrun bricks thrown at you.

Posted by: og on May 14, 2005 10:05 AM

Actually, I am offended by the civil war era motto on the money. The founders knew better, and that sop to superstition did not crowd the coinage for 70 or 80 years.

Sure, it's a little thing, but the little things encourage bigger things, such as the requirement by a number of states that candidates for public office must recognize a supreme deity. Even John Locke was wrong on this one.

When the religious extend the same deference to the non-religious that they demand from us, I'll be willing to relax.

Posted by: Brett on May 14, 2005 12:10 PM

Rather than wallow in ignorance, THIS is what the US Constitution says about religion.:>> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof<<

Note: nothing about 'freedom of religon'" as the looney Christian Right says, nor "freedom from religon" although freedom from is closer to the founder's intent.

Want to test it? Try putting "In Allah we trust" on U.S. money.

Posted by: Rodrigo on May 14, 2005 03:56 PM

Agreed, Rodrigo. It's not as though I'm asking the government to inscribe "God doesn't exist" on official buildings.

Those who want the government to promote religion in these ways are trying to privilege their point of view. If, in the fullness of time, the U.S. became majority moslem, they could demand Allah be recognized in the courtroom, and on the currency, and the Christians who didn't like it wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

Posted by: Brett on May 14, 2005 05:19 PM

Sheeeesh. I thought I was the only one who got response comments from retards. Nice to know "they're" everywhere.

Posted by: dave drake on May 16, 2005 07:28 PM

So then what about the BushFish ( I've been reading about it for the last few weeks and people are calling it "a call to theocracy".

Do these people have the right to create a symbol that goes against the Constitution?!?!

Posted by: David on May 17, 2005 10:02 AM
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