Gut Rumbles

September 08, 2004

he is correct

I don't like the facts, but there they are. The day this country behaves like France and "negotiates" with terrorists is the day we cease to exist as The United States Of America and become... well, France.

I've seen a lot of action movies where some fanatic had a pistol pressed to a woman's head while hissing, "Put down YOUR gun, or I shoot the woman!" I NEVER would put down my gun in that situation, even if the bastard had MY MAMA as a hostage.

I'd probably try to plug him right where he stood, and I think I have a pretty good chance of being successful putting a .38 right in his head (tell me which eyeball), if I could get within 15 feet. But even if I wasn't able to hit him with my first shot, you can bet your sweet ass on one thing. If he shoots his hostage, that bastard ain't getting away alive.

You don't negotiate with such people. You kill them.


Amen, Rob. Amen.

Posted by: Mamamontezz on September 8, 2004 06:12 PM

Would you discuss it with yo mama first?

Posted by: Pat on September 8, 2004 06:34 PM

I KNOW my mama. She'd tell me to shoot the bastard.

Posted by: Acidman on September 8, 2004 06:43 PM

Mama is in no position to argue at that point, Pat, any more than my daughter or husband or anyone I love given a similar situation.

It boils down to a matter of "do it and take your chances" or "don't do it and both of us die."

Posted by: Mamamontezz on September 8, 2004 06:45 PM

Well, I'd personally take it up with the UN, try to get a bunch of shady "allies" to back my position, then I'd be all "sensitive" with the person that had my mother at gunpoint, and then I'd go and see if I had enough money to pay for the bullet (s) I needed, then I'd stand there and load my bullets into my gun, but only as many as I thought was needed by getting a consensus on that number from all of my neighbors. Then I'd go back and tell the guy, uh, hey, I'm serious... really... put your gun down or face serious consequences. He'd shoot my mother, then try to shoot me, then I'd have to go ask my neighbors, can I shoot back, then they'd say, well only if he's pointing the gun at you, but, alas, by then I'd be dead, my mother would be dead and the asshole that shot us both would still be alive to do it again.

Just shoot the bastard, make sure you're mother is as OK as she can be after going through that. Take your stand. And stick to what works.

MammaMontez just said all that in two sentences...damn, I suck. ;)

Posted by: BryanH on September 8, 2004 07:03 PM

The thing is Acidman, you ASSUME you know what other people want and think. But you lack empathy. You've demonstrated that many times in by what you write on your blog. Then you often end up apologizing for what you've said. Face it, your judgement often is way off. Your bumptious behavior gets you in trouble.

Under the circumstance you created in your hypothetical, why not shoot your mama first?
Save her suffering when she get a slug in the lung as your fanatic falls and his gun goes off?

Anyway any real terrorist gunman is very unlikely to take your mama hostage. So, what is your point anyway?

Posted by: Pat on September 8, 2004 07:10 PM

Pat, what planet did you come from?

Posted by: Acidman on September 8, 2004 07:20 PM

That planet does not exist in our solar system

Posted by: wes jackson on September 8, 2004 07:36 PM

Earth, you? Uranus I bet.

Posted by: Pat on September 8, 2004 07:43 PM

"You don't negotiate with such people. You kill them."

From the man of many words (that's me, folks):

Posted by: Dan Pursel on September 8, 2004 09:11 PM

Hey Pat, how many real terrorist gunmen do you know? You're a real class act, and must not have seen this: If (his) blog does not meet your standards, then LOWER YOUR STANDARDS. Who the hell do you think you are, anyway? Looks like your e-mail address hits the mark: I guess was already taken.

Posted by: John on September 8, 2004 09:28 PM

And who said it had to be a ski-mask wearing, porkophobic, Islamofascist terrorist? ANY person holding my daughter with a gun to her head or any other part of her.

Posted by: Mamamontezz on September 8, 2004 09:32 PM

The day this country behaves like France and "negotiates" with terrorists is the day we cease to exist as The United States Of America and become... well, France.
Ya mean, like this?
But the US State Department dismayed the Kremlin by voicing its willingness to meet with moderate Chechen separatists.

"We do have a policy that says we will meet with political officials, leaders who have different points of view," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said.

"Our view of some of these political figures has been different than the Russians," he said, adding that a "political solution" must be found for the conflict in Chechnya.

It could be a part of a plan to goad Putin into ceasing his playing footsies with the Iranians in regards to their nuclear program, but then that'd be darn optimistic on my part. Or naive. Whatever. I hope this hurricane hits so I'll have an excuse to drink as this bit of news is quite depressing...

Posted by: D.J. M.B. on September 8, 2004 09:41 PM

But what about posting a picture of Jennifer?

Posted by: maggot on September 8, 2004 09:44 PM

On the theory that when you've seen one BC you've seen them all, I would point Maggot here.

Posted by: McGehee on September 8, 2004 10:54 PM

Don't you folks never read no history? This problem was solved, long ago, at Harper's Ferry, when John Brown took hostages and occupied the enginge house. When Robt. E. Lee leading a company of Marines with empty rifles (but sharp bayonets) approached the place, Lewis Washington, one of the hostages, yelled; "Never mind us! Fire!"

Posted by: Justthisguy on September 8, 2004 11:42 PM

One of the first things you learn in the Police Academy is, You NEVER disarm yourself; all that does is add to the victom count.

Should Mamamontezz ever be in this situation, I assure you that I would act just as Rob said, and I would expect her to do the same if I were the one being held. I trust her aim a lot more than the good will of an assailant.

Posted by: delftsman3 on September 9, 2004 03:01 AM

Ever see the movie Speed? It starts out with a hostage situation. The thing to do is: take out the hostage. Wound the hostage and they will fall, leaving a great big target to shoot at.

Posted by: Denise on September 9, 2004 04:04 AM

Aw Honey. That's sweet. I promise not to do more than besmirch you a bit with goblin-splatter. It will wash off.

Posted by: Mamamontezz on September 9, 2004 04:51 PM

I really appreciate blogs like this one becuase it is insightful and helps me communicate with others.
thanks.also, that guy billyz, I really need to talk to you about that cure you mentioned.

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