Gut Rumbles

February 10, 2006

just a note

I received a lot of interesting comments on the post I wrote about ADHD. I really expected to get a few death-threats over THAT one, because so many parents DO medicate their children today. I was suprised by the lack of frothing.

I still believe that too many boys get diagnosed and doped simply for behaving like boys. If you look at the "symptoms" of ADHD, they are remarkably similiar to the description of ANY energetic and undisciplined young man. Also, as libby mentioned, this situation is particularly strange when we're supposedly engaged in a War on Drugs.

One fact I did not mention in that post is worthy of note: ADHD is recognized as an official "disability" by the federal government, and if you have a certified ADHD child, you may collect disability benefits from Social Security. Although I am certain that NO parent would allow the lure of a check in the mail each month to influence their parenting decisions, money is a factor in the ADHD equation. Did you ever see the federal government spend money on something that we didn't get MORE OF once the checks started flying?

I'm just sayin'....


Oh, my ex bloodless cunt had him prescribed, and medicated, and when I got custody, he didn't want to take his Ritalin any more, so I took it, and took it. Best fucking speed I ever had. I refilled all the refillables, to. Got a lot of work done with that shit.

We made a deal, he and I, and shook on it. 'You act all ADD, and I beat your ass, okay?' 'okay, Dad'

Only had to take him down a couple times. I made his teachers sit him in the front, and he did pretty damn good. My only regret, is I didn't home school him.

Posted by: Bane on February 10, 2006 07:16 PM

ADHD is real, but I loosely calculate 1% of the kids on Ritalin are ADHD. The rest are wild-assed boys. I had a kid in my fourth grade class, the teacher used to take his belt off everyday and lash him to his desk. He eventually calmed down.

As for Asperger's Syndrome, more than one blogger has accused me of that afflictation.

Posted by: Velociman on February 10, 2006 08:02 PM

I've noted the same thing - my husband counsels a lot of these families, and you know, those kids never straighten up and fly right; the parents have a vested interest in seeing them act out. If that check stopped tomorrow, and the therapy too, everyone would just have to grow up in a hurry...but, now, who'd really want to do that!

Posted by: Bonita on February 10, 2006 08:37 PM

These kids need an ass whoppin, not a pill...As for filing disability, being depressed, drunk, and/or fat is qualified under SSI. Next thing you know baldness and shortness will be a dissability...Or at least they'll be leading causes of depression, resulting in SSI collection....

Posted by: Steph on February 10, 2006 08:47 PM

I agree with Velociman. There may very well be some kids out there with this problem, but so many are missed diagnosed due to someone not wanting to be a parent or a teacher. You are not suppose to walk into a room of zombies and teach. You are suppose to have kids. Energetic and full of life kids.

In order to be diagnosed with ADHD, the child must be observed for six months in the school and in the home. A list must be checked at both school and home and at least 15 of these items must match at both locations. You can't say a kid has an attention problem at school and have him watch MTV four hours straight at home. The problem is with him all the time. It is the difference between can't and won't. He can't behave versus he won't behave.

Another aspect is that kids learn that everytime he or she has a problem, takeing a pill is the answer. Now you are going to have a generation of drugheads that started in elementry school. I would never put my kids on the stuff. But then, I fancy myself in being a good parent. I do not need drugs to do my job. Later.

Posted by: John on February 10, 2006 09:22 PM

It is very difficult to collect SSI for an ADHD child (as it should be). The Welfare Reform Act made it so.

ADHD is a very real affliction. However, it is over-diagnosed and over-prescribed by under-qualified people.

Sucks that people who could truly benefit from therapy are lumped in with those who are just a bit hyper.

Now it seems there is a counter-reaction. Kids who who could REALLY benefit from these drugs (and there are effective ones that are NOT stimulants) are steered away from them by apprehensive parents who are rightfully wary of the over-prescription-affliction.

Posted by: rightisright on February 10, 2006 11:44 PM

I have a friend who is a school nurse at a school for kids with learning and social problems who cannot function is a normal school.

Many of the parents are eager to have their kids diagnosesed as disabled in some way. They get money for it.

Parents respond to money.

Johns Hopkins used to have a problem with "mothers" abandoning their HIV positive babies in the nursery. Once the US govt starting paying these parents for having a disabled child, this problem just went away.

When you think about who gave this child HIV, you have to wonder about the wisdom of this policy.

Posted by: joel on February 11, 2006 04:15 PM

Never had ADHD but do have ADD and I never got any money for it. (damn) My life was some sort of disaster untill I was diagnosed in my late 40's. Ritalin turned the whole thing around. But I do think that it is over diagnosed in the majority of the cases.

Posted by: Dave on February 11, 2006 05:40 PM

Just to put a positive "public school slant" on things - it is a fact that not only private schools, but home schools are entitled to the same money that public schools receive for special education funding, including ADD. In the public school I work for, our SPED teachers have to go to private homes and schools and provide the same services they are required to provide for us. Those of you who condemn public schools seem not to know this. Any savvy parent can avail him/herself of these funds and special treatment, and they do. Don't believe me? Call and ask. And don't blame the SPED teachers, either. They do what they're told by the govt. None of us have any choice. I have little experience with younger kids, but do you honestly think we WANT to give special treatment (including inflated grades) to kids who need a kick in the pants? Come on. Get real.

Posted by: dmull on February 11, 2006 06:51 PM

ADHD and the meds that go along with it are a sorry excuse for parents who are too friggin lazy to discipline their kids. And I don't mean "ass whooping" as has been suggested here. My two boys have never been hit - never. They are boys, no doubt, but they get awesome grades and have developed an amazing conscience for everything around them. Their father and I keep them in line with good old fashioned talking! Amazing what happens when a parent actually talks to a child.

Posted by: Shawna on February 11, 2006 07:49 PM
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