January 12, 2006
quote of the day
"According to Dianne Feinstein, Roe vs. Wade is critically important because "women all over America have come to depend on it." At its most majestic, this precious right that women "have come to depend on" is the right to have sex with men they don't want to have children with." ---ann Coulter
As a man who had a vasectomy and then a radical prostatectomy, I have no dog in this fight. My baby-making days are long gone. But I find it difficult to believe that the abortion issue resonates so strongly among wimmen that it is THE SUPREME issue, above all others, when it comes to electing a President or choosing a Supreme Court justice.
My stance on the issue is simple: abortion should be legal, but frowned upon by society. Wimmen had abortions before they were legal and they'll continue to have them if Roe v. Wade ever is overturned (which I don't believe is gonna happen). No law EVER has stopped people from being people. If you could legislate human nature, laws against murder would stop people from killing each other.
But abortion should NOT be a common form of birth control used AFTER pregnancy, which is what it has become today. In MY humble opinion, we encourage irresponsibility and lessen the value of human life with our current policy. Yeah, yeah... I keep hearing the plaintive bleats of "rape, incest and the mother's health" as excuses for abortion, but I call bullshit on that whine.
We have 4,000 abortions per day performed in this country. Do the math and you'll discover that, on average, a mere 160 of these involve rape, incest or the mother's health. 40 occur because of fetal abnormalities. The other 3,800 are for birth control, and there is no goddam excuse for that number when you can buy condoms in a grocery store today.
We've got some really screwed up priorities in this country when we believe that a woman who has an abortion is simply exercising her "right to choose," while the same woman is a menace to society if she smokes cigarettes. Which behavior is REALLY worse for The Children?
I call that crap some pretty selective outrage.
I don't give a damn what the government says or pass new laws, on us, people are going to fuck, smoke, drink and have sex, no matter what they pass or put on us. When two people are hot and bothered, the last thing on there mind, is birth control. I solved that problem, I had my nuts cut, at a very young age, I am all juice and no seed now, Cat
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I was around back when the abortion movement started and they said: "rape, incest, health of the mother" and the next thing I know they are sucking the brains out of half-born babies. It sickens me. Although I must admit there are people walking around who have survived having their brains sucked out: Diane Feinstein, Harry Belafonte, Barbara Streisand, and a host of others.
Too much federal government for me.
Thank you kindly.
"But I find it difficult to believe that the abortion issue resonates so strongly among wimmen that it is THE SUPREME issue, above all others, when it comes to electing a President or choosing a Supreme Court justice."
You believe correctly, Rob. It doesn't' and it's not . But the feminazis whould try and have all believe so.
abortion is not the issue with me. it is the fact that Roe Vs Wade was a bad decision and an example of judicial activism. If states or even the congress of the land want to legalize abortion then so be it. But a court making law because the legislatures will not is not in accodance with our constitution. There are some other examples such as the Miranda decision that is activism when it should have been law.
Couldn't agree with you more. Just one more excuse for people to stop taking responsibility for their actions.
"You men out there...ever masturbate? If so, every happy slap that ends up in a tissue destroys the potential for human life."
Yes, because semen, if given the chance, will on its own turn into a grown human being. This is not the case with fertilized eggs, despite apparent popular opinion. . There's a difference between "potential" and "actual." I agree with "legal, but frowned upon." It is a woman's body. What she does with it will ultimately be decided by her and no one else. But abortion because the pregnancy is an inconvenience to you because you're too inept to wear protection is just plain irresponsibly stupid. Or sick, IMHO.
I believe woman have a right to choose- right up until the moment of conception. You need to make good choices BEFORE the fact!
You are dead on. I find it so sickening that abortion is THE deciding factor in deciding a Supreme court judge - I think most of these dems don't have a clue how real Americans think. The biggest fight in this dog and pony show is about KILLING babies. It is used for birth control and way out of line when they tell me that I have NO right to know if my 13 year old gets an abortion. That is called parental rights. One would think they would be more worried about the eminent domain fights going on all over the country. This process never ceases to amaze me and I think I am a pretty normal mainstream American. Great post!
Having known people that have made the decision to have an abortion, I find it ludicrous to hear others make it seem to be as simple as deciding what to have for lunch. Although this thing that they are about to terminate may have started without much thought, this decision will haunt them for the rest of their lives. I have pointed out to my own children, once you have had to make this choice, and had to choose this avenue life will never again be as simple as it was. We are fortunate that this is a choice that we can make, without petitioning the government but it is never as easy as the halfwit politicians try to make it appear.
Okay, Warren. Now explain to me how some wimmen (and I know more than ONE) make this decision that "will haunt them the rest of their lives" over and over again? Hell--- I know one woman who has had FOUR abortions. Haunted? Bullshit.
Is a woman who would have FOUR abortions good "mommy" material?
As for the "haunted", I'll agree with Warren on this one, and say MOST women do not make the decision to terminate a pregnancy lightly. It ain't like "choosing" a pair of shoes...more like having one's leg stuck in a bear trap, and "choosing" to gnaw it off.
I can't remember who said this, but it's pathetically true. I read it some while back.
The 800 lb gorilla in every election is an issue which only involves heterosexual women beetween the ages of 13 and 50.
Legal, safe and rare is my take. Abortion as birth control, the way it is now, is totally unacceptable.
The ignorance of the way our republic works also sickens me. Overturning R v. W won't make abortion illegal, but will make it up to the states to decide, in accordance with the Xth amendment. It was legal in several states before R v. W. My recollection is that the question at enactment was whether WE had to pay for it, not whether it was legal or not. The SCOTUS doesn't initiate cases. Even if the court gets packed with right wingers, it may be years and years before a case ever gets to SCOTUS, then a question if it would be overturned or not. Assholes like Feinstein should know better. If she doesn't, shame on her and on her constituents for electing her. If she knows better, shame on her for demagogueing the issue.
Alito kicked their ignoramus, empty-suit, arrogant asses. I hope they keep it up. All in all, a verrrry bad week for Dem Sens on the Judiciary Committee. Particularly Kennedy, Biden, Kennedy, Leahy, Kennedy, Schumer and Kennedy. What a buncha maroons! I don't like Specter, but enjoyed watching him bitch-slap the whale.