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November 28, 2005

ignorance

Opinions are like belly buttons-- everybody has one, but most people should keep theirs covered up, lest they display something ugly. That's my advice for this moron, who simply doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

I know I'm going to piss off many of you, but I have never accepted the disease model of addiction, or addicition itself, which is less a medical than a stigmatizing term.

I believe alcoholism is bad behavior. That's all.

Posted by Brett at November 17, 2005 05:32 PM

Brett, you are full of shit. You probably don't "accept" that idea, either, but you are really, really FULL of shit.

You may not be an alcoholic, but you are more fucked up than anybody I saw in rehab. At least we were TRYING to get well. You seem content to remain an ignorant asswipe. You might try to educate yourself, so you know what the hell you're bleating about, but I don't expect that sort of effort from the likes of you.

Drunks can quit drinking. Dumbasses stay that way all their lives.


Comments

Welcome Back! Just Damn!

Posted by: Dax Montana on November 28, 2005 09:36 PM

Welcome back, ol' guy. You have been in my prayers. It is good to see you back!

Posted by: Robin on November 28, 2005 09:38 PM

Glad to see you back.

Posted by: Sharon on November 28, 2005 09:39 PM

Welcome back! Glad to see you came back from rehab with your head held high.

Posted by: Russ on November 28, 2005 09:40 PM

Back and in legendary form. Yee-haw!

Posted by: McGehee on November 28, 2005 09:40 PM

Oh hell yeah! The wimmens were great but . . . can we curse and swear now?

Posted by: outfoxed on November 28, 2005 09:41 PM

Very glad to see you're back. You've been missed.

Posted by: Annette on November 28, 2005 09:42 PM

Ahh. Now that's the Rob we know and love...and have missed. Welcome back, man.

Posted by: Elisson on November 28, 2005 09:43 PM

Goodgawdalmighty, have you been missed! Can't tell you how glad I am to see that rehab hasn't turned you into a wuss!

Posted by: Patty on November 28, 2005 09:43 PM

Welcome back Rob, how ya feeling?

Posted by: livey on November 28, 2005 09:45 PM

One must understand the workings of the "reptilian" brain to understand why alcoholism IS a disease.
He knows not of which he speaks.
Welcome back!
Meowwwwwwwwww.

Posted by: Lil Toni on November 28, 2005 09:46 PM

Welcome back! Good to see you back at the helm!

Posted by: Braden on November 28, 2005 10:02 PM

Good to see you back, Rob! Good form, too ... heh!

Posted by: Barb on November 28, 2005 10:13 PM

Welcome home!
Full of piss and vinegar too. { Monty Burns voice} "E-xcellent"

Posted by: Henry Blowfly on November 28, 2005 10:28 PM

I thought the phrase was, "Opinions are like asshole, everyone's got one."

Btw, welcome back! I've missed reading your writing. It just hasn't been the same around here without you.

Posted by: Beth on November 28, 2005 11:05 PM

... welcome home, homey...

Posted by: Eric on November 28, 2005 11:40 PM

Hey! The good news is, is he hasn't changed in the *important* aspects. Heh heh!

Posted by: Desert Cat on November 29, 2005 01:24 AM

Ha -- ain't THAT the truth though. Back in rare form I see! See, you can be just as acidic sober!! Probably more so, and way less sloppy!

Posted by: Marianne on November 29, 2005 02:17 AM

He's BAAAAAAAAACK!

Yippee kay yhoooooo!

Missed ya honey....eat em UP.

Posted by: Maggie on November 29, 2005 06:54 AM

Still a choice to drink.

Posted by: damaged justice on November 29, 2005 08:23 AM

A-Man, glad to see you back. I don't know if during your stay they got into the chemical workings of the human brain, genome factors, etc. and the effect that mind altering substances have on it but it doesn't take a semester of classroom work to understand that it is a disease. I can only say that anyone who doesn't want to believe that is a) extremely lucky because they obviously do not have the disease and b) is one closeminded idiot.

Posted by: Dishonorable Schoolboy on November 29, 2005 09:51 AM

Nice to see you back . You were missed.

Posted by: Jim on November 29, 2005 10:01 AM

Who'd' a thunk that you might come back from rehab with a post about addiction?

I really do wish you well in your minute by minute quest for continued sobriety but, "Drunks can quit drinking," just about says it all concerning alcoholics.

Posted by: Arcs on November 29, 2005 10:27 AM

Alcoholism is a disease. It can run in families, or not.
My brother has it. I was lucky, I don't. I have a friend who has that issue in his whole family.

I'm glad you're back. Take care.

Posted by: Harold Foster on November 29, 2005 10:40 AM

Welcome back and congratulations on the hard work.

Posted by: Kim on November 29, 2005 12:30 PM

It's not a disease, so it's not a matter of getting well.

I'm not sick, so I don't need to try to get well.

But I'm arguing with faith.

Posted by: Brett on November 29, 2005 02:00 PM

Some people are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. This guy is obviously one of them. Glad to see you're back Rob. Don't listen to assholes like this. He don't know shit and he'll probably stay that way for life.

Posted by: assrot on November 29, 2005 07:05 PM

Brett, ole hoss, quit digging your hole deeper. Taking your ideas against reality as it is, is not a winning bet.

Posted by: Stu on November 29, 2005 08:12 PM

"Dumbasses stay that way all their lives."

I absolutely love it....man have I missed you!

Posted by: Lisa on November 29, 2005 08:13 PM

Actually, there are quite a few respected medical practitioners who agree with Brett.

It may not be the mainstream "Friend of Bill W" way to think about addiction, but that doesn't mean it has no validity.

Posted by: rightisright on November 29, 2005 08:31 PM

Welcome back Acidman.

And a great first post.

Posted by: pdwalker on November 29, 2005 09:28 PM

I don't know shit about alcoholism as a disease. However, this post did get me interested in learning a little bit more. Even a cursory examination of the evidence shows that the subject is far from closed. For example:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=Display&DB=pubmed

Of course all this takes a back seat to the good news that Acidman is back and in good form.

Posted by: Max on November 30, 2005 02:09 PM

"It's the only fatal disease that will talk to you. And all it tells you is that it isn't a fatal disease."

Posted by: Stu on November 30, 2005 04:22 PM

i've walked in your shoes rob-welcomeback-obviously, brett has never had a bad day in his life-or- faced an addiction--forgive him for his ignorence- and dont waste time or bandwith on fools-

Posted by: mikeymom on November 30, 2005 11:02 PM

Welcome Back! I hope you are feeling weel and grounded.

Remember to kiss.

The Hobo

Posted by: Robohobo on December 1, 2005 12:05 AM

Screw em....take care of number one and let the non-gifted live their insipid worthless little lives....
Bill

Posted by: Fblues on December 1, 2005 01:37 AM

One thing the recovery movement doest not cure: narcisscism.

Posted by: Brett on December 1, 2005 08:20 AM

Wow, Rob, you've really been sucked into the 12 step cult. That's a damn shame as that shit may get you off the booze, but it rots your brain. I've been a daily visitor, but this post has convinced me to stay away in the future. I wish you well health-wise, and hope you still are able to have a creative thought after a few months of the cult brainwashing.

Posted by: Former Fan on December 1, 2005 10:58 AM

Well, former, some would say the kool-aid beats the booze. Unfortunately, many graduates of the program treat the people whose lives they were making miserable while they were drinking just as abominably after they quit. And they intend to do it longer.

Posted by: Brett on December 1, 2005 04:59 PM

Give the man some credit. He's got a helluva lot of courage to have come to terms with this and done something about it. And none of us knows the magnitude of that, without having walked a mile in Rob's shoes.

Instead of making fun or light of, why not show some compassion and encouragement?
Sometimes it's a wise idea to keep certain opinions to one's self, especially if they are gratuitous

Posted by: Mo K. on December 1, 2005 06:55 PM

Brett just seems pissed off because they haven't labeled being a complete asshole a disease so he can get help.

What type of person comes here and mocks someone?

Hmmmm, Brett?

Wecome back A-man.

Posted by: LC Staci on December 2, 2005 01:19 PM

whether it's a "disease" or not doesn't matter. It's a problem. Once you notice the problem, you can make choices to fix it or let the problem continue to rule you. I mean, if you have coolant pouring out your exhaust, are you going to turn up the radio or get that shit to the shop? AA is just one of the tools you can use to fix the problem.

Good goin, Rob. Good to see you back.

Posted by: pril on December 2, 2005 01:22 PM
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