November 10, 2004

I live in a blue state, but a red county. The bleeding hearts up here can kiss my ass. I've worked full time since I was sixteen years old. I pull my own, no handouts for me. If they want to move up to the France, the pussy of the Eastern Hemisphere, or up to that half-French cesspool of Canada, good riddence. Maybe then New Jersey can go back to really being the Garden State instead of the 3-car Garage State. Assholes, I hate them all.
Well, that felt good.

damn, I gotta calm down when I type.
"the France..."
sorry about that.

god damn,rob,you won!!Put on the stars and bars and parade.Put the rifle in the gun rack,your hand on the bible and sing about some train on a track.
Fall to your knees and thank robert e lee that you dont fall for dumb shit in your country......Fuck you and the misguided high horse you ride.....thats funny..good luck!!!

So, they want to secede. Hmmmm...

As I recall, secession didn't work so well the last time it was tried, right?

Gawd, I'm glad I don't live in San Jose, CA anymore!

Of course, they are a bunch of dummies, unwilling to learn from the past, which is why their future isn't looking so hot.

And people still in California wonder why I was so happy when we learned we were moving to SE Georgia!

It wouldn't be a fair fight. And I do enjoy the thought of Southern evangelicals presiding over the Reconstruction of San Francisco.

If the Blue states left, we would be taking most of the wealth, most of the natural beauty, most of the sea ports, and most of the intelligent people.

We would then hold up our middle finger and tell you third-world Jezuz freaks to go fuck yourselves.

Yeah, but without all us "jezuz freaks", who would be around to support gutless fucking pussies like you, Mike Ross of Portland Oregon?

Hell, if Texas sneezed really hard, all the lights would flicker in California. Why? Because that's where the Left Coast gets all it's power from. With electric dams being torn down in Washington, the only real power producing companies are in the Southwest. All it would take is for one person to flip the wrong switch, and Cali is done for the day.

The red states grow the food. The red states provide the actual sustenance that this country consumes, and quite honestly, the red states would be better off if dipshit cities like Seattle, or Portland, or LA, or New York would just leave them the hell alone. But when idiotic shitty little fucking worms like the afore-mentioned Mike Ross of Portland Oregon come along and make total and complete asses of themselves, all the sudden letting those cities go looks pretty damn good.

All you city-bound chickenshits (like Mike Ross of Portland Oregon!) don't know a fucking thing about this country. But you can go ahead, throw your temper tantrums and whine about the red states all you want. It'll just mean that you'll lose the next election as well.

Good riddance. Especially if they'll take a few of our Jesusland Jesus people along with'em. We need a few to keep us in line but it's getting to be a regular infestation

"Yeah, but without all us "jezuz freaks", who would be around to support gutless fucking pussies like you, Mike Ross of Portland Oregon?"

Certainly a good Christian, such as yourself, will continue to love me and pray for me.

"The red states grow the food. The red states provide the actual sustenance that this country consumes, and quite honestly, the red states would be better off if dipshit cities like Seattle, or Portland, or LA, or New York would just leave them the hell alone."

Dave, you are aware that plenty of food is grown in the Willamette Valley in Oregon. Try not to forget about the very fertile San Joaquin Valley in California. Food won't be much of a concern for us.

"All you city-bound chickenshits (like Mike Ross of Portland Oregon!) don't know a fucking thing about this country. But you can go ahead, throw your temper tantrums and whine about the red states all you want. It'll just mean that you'll lose the next election as well."

Well said, Dave. Well said.

You're welcome to the blue counties. The rest of most of the blue states are populated by red voters. They're the ones with the farms, and they're the one's in general who own land and pay property taxes.

Dave, you are aware that plenty of food is grown in the Willamette Valley in Oregon. Try not to forget about the very fertile San Joaquin Valley in California. Food won't be much of a concern for us.

I do know how much food those areas grow. I also know what kinds. Enjoy your olives, wine and rice for the rest of your life. Maybe if you pulled your head out of your ass and started learning about the rest of the country you wouldn't be such an idiotic fuckknucle.

But please, keep being an insufferable dipshit. I'll be rubbing your idiocy into your face in four more years.

Just let the blue COUNTIES leave. No water, power, food. They might have to drill for oil off Santa Barbara! No oil for tofu! Real coffee not latte!

"I do know how much food those areas grow. I also know what kinds. Enjoy your olives, wine and rice for the rest of your life."

And don't forget Strawberries, rasberries, apples, hazlenuts and the best damn beer-making hops in the world.

Since the Blue states own most of the wealth, we will have no trouble buying the cheap wheat and soy from your peasant labor in the mid-west.

I’d like to put it to a vote myself. I’d bet they wouldn’t even get enough signatures on a petition to do it, even here in California. As for the individuals threatening to leave (yeah, I’m talking to you Robert REDford) try Cuba, I hear it’s sun and fun all the day.

"Since the Blue states own most of the wealth, we will have no trouble buying the cheap wheat and soy from your peasant labor in the mid-west."

You are assuming, of course, that 1)the red states would wish to trade with you(might get a bit sticky when its obvious the other country holds it in obvious contempt) and 2)you would have the water to grow those crops. Despite the large amounts of rain the Pacific Northwest receives, most of the agriculture is located in the more arid regions of the west coast. Considering the far left's historical distaste for dams--and we can make the assumption that many of these structures will be torn down for the sake of "the environment"--what are you going to do when there is a drought and you not only need to grow crops, but meet the water needs of your vastly over-populated urban areas? Remember, most of the water that flows to the coast originates in the Mountain West, and it's highly unlikely that they will be in such a generous mood to provide such a crucial resource to a region that is notorious for consuming it on a grand scale.

And Southern California? Forget it...it will be VERY difficult to keep that thirsty region going when they no longer have 4.5 million acre feet to grow their crops, quench their citizens thirst, or the power provided by Hoover Dam and other associated Colorado River dams. Quite frankly, it will be quite easy for the Mountain West to tear up the Colorado River Compact, invoke prior appropriation, and tell California, "Good luck finding that water you used to sponge off of us!"

Sorry Mike-- the west coast might be able to make it work for a short while, but eventually, the fight over water (not wealth creation, agriculture, business, what have you) is what will ultimately bring the region down.

I'm not too concerned, Chris. I have no doubt that you good-hearted Christians in Jesusland will let us have a glass of water.

Here is something to think about:

We in blue states produce the vast majority of the wealth in this country and pay the most taxes, and you in the red states receive the majority of the money from those taxes while complaining about them.

We in the blue states are the only ones who've been attacked by foreign terrorists, yet you in the red states are gung ho to fight a war in our name.

We in the blue states produce the entertainment that you consume so greedily each day, while you in the red states show open disdain for us and our values.

Blue state civilians are the actual victims and targets of the war on terror, while red state civilians are the ones standing behind us and yelling "Oh, yeah!? Bring it on!" More than 40% of you Bush voters still believe that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11.

Hey MikeLX, what makes you think that us red-staters are all nice Christians? I'm not, a lot of others I know aren't and if you coastal disshits wanted to secede, go right ahead. Of course, you would have to go it alone, no help from us, as I wouldn't let the "nice" Christians help you out if it meant taking from me and mine...
Also you do realize that the vast majority of counties, even in "Blue" states voted Republican? Which means you wouldn't even have most of the farming areas of your blessed coastal states, and you would be forced to make do on what you could grow in your mostly overpopulated coastal counties. Sorry to bust up your dream, but we would do just fine without you. I don't think you could last very long without us though.

Keep talking like that, Celtic, and we will never let you into Disneyland again.

We also brew the best beer in the world. So if you want to be nasty to us, then you will just have to be content drinking Sewers or Buttwipers.

That's it - Mike has officially lost it, and is now simply pulling crap out of his ass and throwing it around.

Poor child. It's always sad to see a young mind break so easily!

"I'm not too concerned, Chris. I have no doubt that you good-hearted Christians in Jesusland will let us have a glass of water."

I'm agnostic, along with a lot of other people in "Jesusland"(No, no appeal to prejudice from Michael Moore there! Talk about projection)so I'm not sure where this fallacy of generalization is coming from. If it has anything to do with the gay marraige rejections, I seem to recall that Oregon wasn't too keen on it, either--perhaps the re-education camps will take care of this. Please see my previous post--when one country holds another in contempt, it becomes extremely difficult to conduct serious trade talks--that is a reality of geopolitics. Should secession occur (and lets be honest, its not going to happen despite some fevered lamentations emanating from some of the less mentally stable) I would not at all be surprised if one day Californians went to fill their pools and found that nothing but air came out.

"We in blue states produce the vast majority of the wealth in this country and pay the most taxes, and you in the red states receive the majority of the money from those taxes while complaining about them."

The former might still be true (I haven't seen the figures, so perhaps you have evidence of this), but the latter? The largest form of benefit the red states possibly recieve from taxes is the agricultural subsidies, towards a way of life that is largely dying off. By and large, urban areas tend to consume the most taxes, since they tend to hold the most people relying on the income from these taxes. Then of course you have taxes for roads, natural resources, and so forth. The red states might not have the money-generating machines that New York, Chicago, and LA do, but the fact of the matter is that cities like Denver, Dallas-Fort Worth, Atlanta, New Orleans, St. Louis, Phoenix, and Miami are nothing to sneeze at either. It's no accident that the populations of the blue states have been migrating to the red states for well on sixty years now, and I doubt this trend will change.

"We in the blue states are the only ones who've been attacked by foreign terrorists, yet you in the red states are gung ho to fight a war in our name....Blue state civilians are the actual victims and targets of the war on terror, while red state civilians are the ones standing behind us and yelling "Oh, yeah!? Bring it on!""

Most of America's servicemen and women come from the red states, so we are in fact standing in front of you--I suppose I'd be pretty appalled too if I had to have someone else stand up for me if I didn't have the fortitude to do so myself.

"We in the blue states produce the entertainment that you consume so greedily each day, while you in the red states show open disdain for us and our values."

Part of that disdain emanates from the open condescension that the blue states hold for the values of people in the red states, so I can't see how you can claim victim status here.

Sorry MikeLX, I'll take a good Shiner Bock, brewed right here in Texas, to any Portland piss you're drinking...
As far as Disneyland goes, shit, you can keep it, Florida is a Red state. We have Disneyworld...

"You're welcome to the blue counties. The rest of most of the blue states are populated by red voters. They're the ones with the farms, and they're the one's in general who own land and pay property taxes." - Posted by Dave Munger

Under Article IV, Section 3, of the U.S. Constitution, Counties can't secede from a State, unless it is authorized by that State's Legislature. If legal secession occurs, it will be the secession of States from the Union, not the secession of Counties from a State without the permission of that State's Legislature. If any "Blue" State secedes, and decides to retain all of its land, "Red" voters will have the choice to either sell their conditionally "owned" land and move out of that State, or leave the Union.

fuck you! you stupid ass conservative faggot! i hope we seceed and have a REAL america so we can kick all you retards the fuck out of it. Remember asshole, america began in the blue states so do us all a favor and get the fuck out of OUR country! Fuck you and your stupid-ass red states!

It really is amazing how so many Red State people have no understanding of North American geography, and no knowlege of what the North East, Northern Midwest, and Far West are actually like. I suggest they travel outside of their home counties and learn a thing or two, before spouting off. Oh, by the way , Acid Man, I currently live in the cesspool otherwise known as the South, and I can tell 'ya Southern men are ANYTHING but manly.

I don't give a damn about red staes or blue states, it's the United States of America. If we stood on the original principles set down by our forefathers, this country would be blessed and not forsaken by God. As for Texas I've been telling GWB to leave office and secede with Texas for 5 years now. We don't need you, We don't want you. Go back to Mexico. You have until 12/21/2012 to secede, then God and Nature will do it for you.
-I Mess With Texas!-