December 02, 2005
Hey acidman what the fuck is wrong with you?
I thought you were dying? You said you were and you couldn't use your legs anymore. You described an incurable disease NOT Alcholohism.
Yea, don't gimme this shit alcholohism is a disease, I know it is but its NOT in the same catagory as cancer or leukiama or ACLS.
So why did you lie and say you were dying?
Posted by Terry at December 2, 2005 01:55 PM
Let's see... liver enzymes off the chart, jaundice, a hemoglobin count of seven (thus, the "brown-outs"and shortness of breath), blood pressure dangerously low and heart rate alarmingly high, malnurished and too weak to walk...nah. There wasn't a damn thing wrong with me.
I would have been dead in a week if I hadn't checked into rehab when I did. The doctors told me that they wouldn't have TAKEN me if they had known my physical condition beforehand. But Terry is correct. I lied about the whole thing.
I made that shit up to get a link from Glenn Reynolds.
Yo, Rob. I'm painting my toenails a nice perky crimson in your honor for our holiday party tomorrow.
Welcome back again and keep strong.
Geez, now YOU know what it feels like to be President Bush....liar, liar, White House on fire.
When Reid, Pelosi, Kerry, and Murtha call in the Prez for a lie detector test, YOU BETTER SHOW UP TOO, ACID !
Us "trolls" are damn tired of you Southern liars trying to make the world feel sorry for ya.
What? What? You think we're a bunch of assholes --if ya say ya might die, well for the love of Massachusetts, ya damn well better do so!
When you teach me to shoot, can he be the first one I shoot?
Terry's a troll.
(Heh. Has a certain alliterative appeal to it... "Terry the Troll")
Bane says so eloquently exactly what I was thinking. There is no shortage of fools in this world, as Terry so obviously reminds us.
I knew you were sandbagging, Rob. Lied about your hemogoblins, didn't you?
Terry, where do you live? I have a gift for you.
Who the fuck is this guy Terry? He must not have a life of his own so he thinks everybody else is on his level. I for one can testify to the condition that my friend Rob was in before he went for treatment. I could care less what Terry thinks. I am glad that Rob took the steps he has because I was certain that we were going to lose him. I've know Rob for 30 years and I would like to extend our friendship for a few more. Just FUCK YOU Terry.
Don'cha just love it when some blockhead with late stage terminal cranio-rectal insertion makes medical diagnoses from a partial reading of a couple of three month old blog posts?
Hmmmm. Terry. 2500 meters. Hmmm....
Never heard of alcoholism being "curable". You only keep it in remission.
Before you range in that 2500 meters, teach someone how to spell "alcoholism".
Alcoholics develop neuropathy (damage to peripheral nervous system; diabetics do also) . I used to work at the VA and saw a patient who could not only not walk but couldn't even lift a glass to his lips due to alcoholic neuropathy. Not meaning to be a downer--just information.
Hang in there: One day at a time...
What a maroon, Terry is. And the other like-minded totally ignorant trolls.
Even ClueBats wouldn't help them.
Can we have their oxygen?
Personally Rob -- I hope you live -- because you're an inspiration to anyone that has ever known or been a drunk. I need that inspiration. And a lot of other people do too. The will to live rising in a nearly dead man is always inspiring. I watched my brother die of alcoholism (however you want to spell it) because he just couldn't quit -- or wouldn't. I am sure the pain of living was just greater than the pain of drinking -- so he drank and it killed him.
The most amazing thing I have seen is that there might be someone angry at you because now that you've been through rehab, maybe you're not going to die. Whoa ... that's just hard to fathom.
Be strong -- and keep telling ignorant fucks where to get off. Good will to you. And let's hope we'll be dying later rather than now.
Acidman wrote, "But Terry is correct. I lied about the whole thing."
Did I say you lied? No.
Why do you lie about that and say I did when I didn't?
You wrote, "I know what is wrong with me, I am dying."
Then you say you don't want to spend the money, you want to leave it to your children.
IMPLYING that the medical treatment would, in probability, not cure you and/or only extend your life in great pain and offer no relief.
If one gets ACLS, Lou Gehrig's disease, the same disease that inflicted Catfish Hunter and Morrie Abraham(best seller :"Tuesday's with Morrie") there is no cure. That is it. Your out of here. Not "I am dying but I can be cured if I spend thirty days in rehab." which was your condition and YOU GAVE ABSLOLUTELY NO HINT OF. ON THE CONTRARY, WHEN YOU SAID THE PICTURES OF YOU SITTING DOWN WAS BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T USE YOUR LEGS ANYMORE CONFIRMED IT.
You lied by omission. From the hints you dropped, from your wordsm one could only conclude that you were dying from an incurable disease.
FACT: YOU WEREN'T.
Do you deny that?
PS I was the one who e:mailed Reynolds(Instapundit) of your condition on August 11 or 12.
I don't agree with this:
IMPLYING that the medical treatment would, in probability, not cure you and/or only extend your life in great pain and offer no relief.
There's no evidence to support that. The only evidence there is is that the cost of it (rehab)would mean that Rob wouldn't be able to leave that money to his kids.
I have two kids -- I would rather give them everything I have now -- then squandor it all in saving my damn life. I guess maybe you don't have have kids Terry. The only reason I don't kill myself now -- is that I still think I can make a better world for my kids.
Otherwise -- I want to pass to them all the worth of my effort.
'Terry'...talking to hear your brains rattle gets you no respect...here, or anywhere. Not even in the third grade, where you appear to be stuck, emotionally.
Rob is a fuckin drunk. But you are a fuckin retard. Dance, monkey. Dance for us.
Lather, rinse and repeat (wut Bane said).
A-man, why do u even BOTHER to reply to this IDJIT?
I understand Terry's point.
But drunks babble and tend to exaggerate.
Rob had but days left on Earth. Sounds like dying to me. Believe it or not, the option of sobriety is not always apparent or desired by someone whose body and mind are conditioned against it.
I'd written a longer response, but even several years sober I closed when I meant to post. Hang in there, Rob, and illegitimi non carborundum.
Lovely, not one logical response. Not one response going into detail, not that it would take much detail, to refute my point.
Acidman wrote, "I know what's wrong with me, I am dying."
Does that statement hint at a cure, a way out?
If so, please write detail explanation.
PSS I wrote, "Acidman wrote, "But Terry is correct. I lied about the whole thing."
Did I say you lied? No."
When I did write "why did you lie" in the first comment, I meant why did you say you were dying of an incurable disease when you weren't, not that you weren't sick.
Terry, why do you think you are special enough to warrent a detailed explanation of this semantic arguement from Rob or anyone else?
First of all, it's ALS. Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis. Better known as Lou Gehrig's Disease.
Not ACLS. That's The Advanced Cardiac Life Support class acronym.
Did it fucking occur to you that at that point in time, that maybe he didn't want to come out and say he was a fucking drunk? Ya know, all of us have a certain amount of pride and making a pronouncement like that (which he did later) is a major undertaking. (and to stir the AA pot - the 1st step) ;-)
Guilt by ommission? Maybe. So what the fuck is it to you? The guy shares waaaaay more than is probably good for him with us as it is.
Was he lying about dying? No. Others have attested as to his general medical condition. Have you checked out any of the Bloggers comments from the last Blog meet?
Alcoholism is a terminal disease. LIFE is a terminal disease. Your ass is gonna die too. And there ain't a fuckin' thing you're gonna do to change that. How's that for semantics?
Did I answer your question? Probably not, but I'll repeat mine - Who the fuck are you to think you warrent a detailed answer from anyone when lead off with a load of shit as quoted?
You and Former Fan will have to remain hungry till there's a carcass for you vultures to pick over. Damn sorry about your disappointment.
An alcoholic LIED to you Terry! My god! How can you survive the trauma?! I'm sure no one has ever lied to you before, and now Acidman, the man you've piled your hopes and dreams on, lied to you!
I just hope you can live with the horror. Just remember, day by day man. Day by day.
We're here for you buddy.
Congratulations, Terry, they're calling you names. You must have made a point they don't want to think over.
I was at the last blogmeet. He was dying. By his own hand. He made the choice to change that and he's doing a damn fine job of it. Dying is dying and it doesn't matter what the cause. It still results and spending the rest of your life looking at roots.
Terry, if you took the time to actually read his posts and comments, AND listen to what was really said, you would have been able to see that Rob never implied anything.
Rob doesn't need to answer to anyone but himself. Your comments making it obvious you are not one of his supporters.
This "Terry" is the same guy who asked you a while back if you were rich and dying. Someone asked him if he was a female or a gay male and he replied that he was a male.
He's angry because he thought he could pull a MALE Anna Nicole.
Don't let this homo piss you off. He's pissed cause he can't have you and so he's trying to anger you. Let him and HE wins.
Post some of the incouraging, supportive comments. I know you have TONS!
Here's a good entry on being a junkie -
Terry you are the epitome of an ignorant ass.
Alcoholism IS an incurable disease.
One that can kill you.
You ASSumed he had something else.
Instead of being happy he turned his life around you insult the man?
That's the lowest anyone can be.
Hope you like it down in the mud dude.
Now do the world a favor, go drink yourself to death.
Hey, just so you know, that was a totally different Terry, not me. I always leave my email and URL. A URL I wouldn't have at all if it weren't for Acidman. And I hardly ever leave comments. So I guess I'll have to change my name.
And there's some porn guy out there who posts as maddad, so I'm running out of ideas.
But I'm glad you're back and getting well.
This is, obviously, directed to Terry the Troll, not Terry "maddad...."
Where the hell do you get off questioning and nit-picking Acidman? He's shown more guts and fortitude in the past two months than you probably will ever dream of having your whole life.
I don't read this blog regularly, and I initially came over because of Glenn's link. I stopped by a couple of days ago to see how Acidman was doing, and I'm so glad for him that he's actively working (you know, WORK - where you put in some real, honest sweat-and-blood effort?) to get better.
He saw his problem, and he stated its consequences accurately. Now, he's made up his own bloody mind that this monster on his back isn't going to beat or defeat him. He ought to be given respect, instead of having little ducks like you try to nibble him to death!
You go, Acidman - you've got lots of people pulling for you, and I hope like hell that real soon you can stand up and spit in death's eye.
One thing, though, I don't understand is why did they let you smoke, but not have a bar of soap or a razor?
Color me confused because the last thing I heard was that smoking causes a lot of health problems (much like drinking) - far more than a bar of soap. Smoking is pretty addicting too, no?
I've posted this before, but health professionals now deem smoking as a disorder (tobacco use disorder) - much like mental disorders which are mental diseases, really, if you want to follow that line of that logic.
Hey, and I smoke too, so this isn't a bash on smokers, just an honest question. I guess I have a smokerism.
I am proud as hell of you for going, doing what needed to be done, and being honest and forthright with your struggle.
I come from a father who is/was/were/isn't an alcoholic (he quit cold turkey 25 years ago by himself), and a mother who still attends Al-Anon for which I was present when she received her 30 year chip. So, I say whatever works- whatever works.
I just have a hard time with the logic, or the lack thereof, regarding addiction versus disease - be it smoking, bulemia, anorexia, obesity, drinking, gambling, sex, heroin, crack, meth, pot, uppers, downers, etc.
I'm open to thoughtful discourse about it - that is if Rob allows it on his blog, but if he doesn't then that's fine too.
Like I said, whatever works and helps you, Rob, is just that and shouldn't be criticized.
Rob wrote, "I would have been dead in a week if I hadn't checked into rehab when I did. The doctors told me that they wouldn't have TAKEN me if they had known my physical condition beforehand. But Terry is correct. I lied about the whole thing."
You believe the Doctors Rob?
I had a growth in my mouth when I was 8. Dentist and oral surgeon told my mother it "didn't look good." Got it cut out in forty minutes in a dentist, no problem since.
Doctors told my mother my brother "might have tuberculosis of the spin, but if not, it still doesn't look good." He wore a back brace for six months, never had a problem since.
Two friends injured there an eye. Both were told they would probably NOT regain their site, but if they did it would be very poor.
Both had 20/20 vision back within 8 months.
See a pattern here Acidman? Doctors always make things seem worse because it makes them look good when you recover or makes it very, very difficult to sue if things go the other way.
I did not say you lied about your sickness. I said you lied when you clearly gave the impression that you were dying of an incurable disease when you weren't.
So sensitive. I guess a prostrate gland makes the man.
Terry: I never got the impression Rob was dying of an incurable disease. It was clear to me that he had a serious problem with alcohol and he felt he would die if he didn't seek help soon. However, if he has a 'prostrate' gland, that could be a terminal condition for sure.
When did he imply it was absolutely incurable Terry? And it entirely depends on the type of doctor you go to. Rob's condition was curable in that if he was a stubborn enough bastard, he would probably manage to fight the addiction and live. Most people who are as badly out of it as Rob was aren't stubborn enough to drop alcohol. Ergo the doctors were probably entirely correct with their prognosis.
Ravenshrike, Rob posted on August 8th,
"I know what's wrong with me, I am dying."
He then pointed out that in two pics of him, the reason he was sitting down in both was because he couldn't use his legs anymore.
What does that imply?
It's one thing to interact with Terry on the comment thread of a blog. My heart goes out with sincere pity for the people who have to put up with him 24/7 in the real world. That's the other thing.
Terry you absolute assine dipshit, Rob was dying, that's a fact anyone with half a brain could see. He never implied it was an incurable disease.
You ASSumed that asswipe!
Now shut your fucking ignorant pie hole before I hunt you down, cut out your prostrate and feed it to you.
Dear Livey, it is 'prostate gland'...Terry, once again, shows his idiocy. Do not copy him.
God gave men the prostate to compensate for giving you women the clitoris. You are welcome to snap on a glove and play with mine, any time. I'm pretty sure that's not adultry. Otherwise, I'd have been cheating with my doctor for years.
Prostrate me and prostate me, baby!
I know that Bane, I did it on purpose.
Now where are my gloves?
Rob is a Man, and a fine one to boot. It is as difficult for a Man to admit that he can no longer "handle his likker" as it is to admit that he needs a bionic dick. What he is even now struggling with isn't like leukemia or ALS, but it's something you can't get chemotherapy for. Now and for the rest of his life he will have to struggle with the behavioral component of it. People who haven't been susceptible to this disorder - yet - may be judgmental, but those of us who love him don't care that he isn't perfect. A diamond needs some impurities to sparkle properly, and Acidman sparkles more than adequately. Terry can be judgmental when as many people care about his life or death issues.
But, to be honest, Terry has a good start on being obnoxious enough to compete. Where's your blog, boy?
Terry is obviously young, dumb, and full of cum. (Ah, to be young again and still know everything!) It's obvious that he's young because he can't spell for shit. Sounds like the ravings of every future alcoholic/junkie I every met, including myself.
Back when I was young, I was a major drug dealer for a decade. You were my favorite kind of mark. I would procede to addict little fucks like you to all kinds of lovely narcotics and drain you dry. Fortunately for little fucks like you, I was "forcibly retired by the government".
My wife was an alcoholic whose despair over not being able to stop drinking caused her to commit suicide two months ago. I am 50 years old and she was 32.
I am the gladiator who has strode through it all for three decades - causing and witnessing death and destruction. Now here's where I'm gonna lie: I am dying now too. Oh no, not from some disease or the fact that I've been a junkie for 30 years - emotionally dying. My will to live has been taken from me in an instant. I have lost almost everything that I care about. But I will survive because that's what I do. So fuck you, you little punk. I've killed and eaten smarter things than you.
To Rob: I'm proud of you and I've walked in "your shoes" so to speak. You owe no one any explanations. I knew you were dying before you started talking about it just by looking at your photos as time progressed. I've seen that alcoholic many times before, in meetings, the rehab centers where I used to speak, and in my own mirror. Get a GOOD sponsor soon! He will help save your life too.
Fucking knew I'd do that. ;-] It's why I seldom call a spade a spade anymore. I meant to say "proceed" not "procede". Ah well, at least I caught it.
Did Acidman lie about having some sort of disease along with needing to detox? Yup. Do I give a shit? Nope. He ain't selling me any life insurance.
As for alcoholism having no cure, it also has no proof. Want to be an alcoholic? Just say you're one and check yourself into rehab. You'll be an alcoholic for the rest of your life.
Hey Terry, take a hint you clueless fuck -- you're whistling into a hurricane. You're a pied piper of one. You got no constituency here. You're a painted bird, a skunk at a lawn party. This is Rob's freakin blog. He can say whatever the fuck he wants. You don't know him well enough to read between his lines, go read someone else's blog. You're so stupid, you make me wanna kill myself -- wait -- don't go callin 911, I was just kiddin.
You have to wear gloves???