November 06, 2005
For eleven days, unchecked rioting has been perpetrated in some of the suburbs surrounding Paris, France and, last night, the mayhem reached the city itself. The perpetrators are North African Muslim immigrants and children of those immigrants whose initial impetus for rioting was the accidental electrocution deaths of two men that had allegedly been fleeing from the police.
Could what's happening in France happen here? I say no.
Now before you protest, make sure you understand my question.
Obviously, riots occur here in the USA all the time--sometimes for just causes, in other instances, just 'cause. Still other occasions of "civil unrest" have spontaneously erupted due to 'mass happiness,' especially here in
The 'what' I'm referring to, however is the response of the government--or in France's case, the lack of response--for eleven days. Could you imagine the LAPD putting up with this nonsense for more than the few days it would take to coordinate its attack? Could you imagine a state governor--Democrat or Republican--dithering for a week before sending in the National Guard , Governor Kathleen Blanco's (D-LA) demonstrably poor decision-making capabilities notwithstanding? Most of all, could you foresee any given segment of American citizenry allowing the destruction of its hard-won property for more than the time took to form up in militias of their own? Or allowing roving bands of thugs to go from city to city?
Neither can I. (There are two reasons that riots only last a few days in the USA. The autonomy of local government is one; the other is called the Second Amendment.)
However, while the rioters in France are showing no sign of tiring, the French, government and citizenry alike, are showing no sign of saying 'Non!'
In Paris, while "youths" fired on the gendarmerie, burned down a gym and disrupted commuter trains, the French Cabinet split in two, as the "minister for social cohesion" (a Cabinet position I hope America never requires) and other colleagues distance themselves from the interior minister, the tough-talking Nicolas Sarkozy who dismissed the rioters as "scum." President Chirac seems to have come down on the side of those who feel the scum's grievances need to be addressed. He called for "a spirit of dialogue and respect." As is the way with the political class, they seem to see the riots as an excellent opportunity to scuttle Sarkozy's presidential ambitions rather than as a call to save the Republic.We Americans make fun of the France of sixty-five years ago for knuckling under to Hitler's Reichswehr and many have postulated that most of Vichy's children and grandchildren had learned nothing from that experience. But I think that most Americans would understand, even cheer were France to act forcefully and decisively to protect its peaceful citizens and to save itself.
How sad and frightening it is to find out that the original hypothesis was correct.
(Cross-posted at baldilocks)
Right you are.
We have been predicting the deterioration of Europe for a long time and even though a "we told you so" is due to the pompous French, we still hope that they can get their act together and get this disaster under control.
I don't really mind if the both the men and women of France are forced to wear hijabs but I certainly do not want another front in the war against terror to open in the heart of Europe.
With conflicts in the Iraq, Iran, Israel, Indonesia, Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Philippines and many other hotspots, we have enough fronts to deal with as it is.
As much as I bitch about the arrogance of the French, I don't want to see them capitulate to Islam. The thoughts of Nukes and the system to deliver them with in the hands of Islamic radicals is scary..Posted by: GUYK on November 6, 2005 08:36 PM
The French are reaping the benefits of multiculturalism and unchecked immigration.
Take note, America.Posted by: rightisright on November 6, 2005 09:20 PM
serves em right. let these assholes run rampant and bow to thier little religion of camel fucking at every turn and see what it gets you?? we best remember this, otherwise history repeats itself.Posted by: drunken redneck on November 6, 2005 09:21 PM
I'd like to think we are bit better at crowd control, especially in L.A.
Plus, don't forget the unknown number of gun-toting citizenry milling about in the "crowd" and one way or the other, it would get cleaned out in short order.Posted by: Joni on November 6, 2005 11:06 PM
We're ready in my neighborhood. The average "yut" can heave a 40-oz bottle of gasoline 25 yards. My shotgun makes a tight pattern out to 35 yards.
BTW, the Fire Dept hereabouts won't go to a riot, so the assholes don't have a chance of having the fire from their blown-away Molotov cocktails put out in time...Posted by: Rivrdog on November 7, 2005 01:31 AM
Blah, the only reason the riots continue is that the French canít figure out who to surrender to.
Stolen this comment from Yogurt (whoever that is).
-PhilPosted by: Phil on November 7, 2005 09:31 AM
Years of appeasement come home to roost...Chirac was always kissing (yes, literally and figuratively) up to Arafat.
Losers don't win any respect from Arabs.
Arabs only respect strength.Posted by: Maggie on November 7, 2005 10:31 AM
The French turned my father over to the Nazis. I have a very hard time feeling any sympathy for them.Posted by: Juan Paxety on November 7, 2005 12:23 PM
What is happening in France could easily happen here. It is not an unplanned riot, it's just a terrorists attack of a different kind. Well planned and well exacuted so far and with little interference from the stupid French leaders (sic). A hundred crack troops with orders to shoot to kill could end it in hours. All of the (Islamist) aren't stupid,or maybe they are, but they know they aren't getting any of the 70 Virgins, unless they classify the fires of hell a Virgin.Posted by: scrapiron on November 7, 2005 10:20 PM
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