Gut Rumbles

October 25, 2005

It's A War

The 2000th military fatality in Operation Iraqi Freedom occurred today.

The left: Let's get this party started! Oh those poor, poor soldiers who died for nothing but oil and the Jews!

The right: God rest all of you and may your sacrifice not be in vain.

UPDATE: Cox and Forkum make things a little plainer.

UPDATE: Hey! This dude called me a chickenhawk! Well, there's no accounting for research skills.


Is nothing in the states right or wrong, it always seems to be right or left?

Posted by: Dave on October 25, 2005 05:43 PM

Buncha Commie Pansies wrote that shit.
Disgusting crap-but what do you expect from these faggots?

Posted by: Ralph Rattfuc on October 25, 2005 05:59 PM

Yes Dave,
Right = Right and Left = Wrong.

Really quite simple.

Posted by: rightisright on October 25, 2005 07:01 PM

Damn straight, Juliette. This has been making me gag all day.

I'd like to see a running total of dead 'journalists'...breathlessly anticipating the next one.

Offer a prize.

Funny, how we don't get a running total of dead Islamassholes.

Posted by: Bane on October 25, 2005 09:33 PM

Yea... Um... yea.

I can't help but notice you guys celebrating in your own way.

Posted by: Yogimus on October 26, 2005 06:16 AM

Celebrating? Were we to start holding street vigils and talking about what "victims" the GIs are, rhen you'd have a point, Yogi. Otherwise....BS.

Posted by: Juliette on October 26, 2005 12:38 PM

excuse me, there's a problem with that picture, the correct word is not 'Islamist', it's 'Freedom Fighter'.


Posted by: Roy on October 26, 2005 12:51 PM

No one death is more important than the rest. The 2000th soldier is no more significant than 1765. EACH one is a tragedy, and the cost we pay. If you make ONE special, you make the other 1999 mundane.

Posted by: Yogimus on October 26, 2005 04:16 PM

Yogimus -

When I signed up in '74, I certainly wasn't promised a safe life - and the idea that I was so precious that I'd never be subjected to any danger would have been ludicrous. We knew we were a resource that would be expended if need be, just as bombs, bullets or beans - but we trusted our leadership to not go to war without good and sufficient reason. You may not agree with the reasons, but I understand them, and do.

Taking up the profession of the soldier doesn't mean that you're going to be safe, protected, or comfortable. If the shit hits the fan, you're there to catch the shit before the civilians you protect do - and fling it back hard and fast at the enemy. The two thousand soldiers who have died have freed over 25 million people in Iraq and Afghanistan, they helped Libya to decide to come clean on their WMD programs, they inspired the Orange Revolution in the Ukraine, and the Cedar Revolution in Lebanon. They've made Syria think twice, and forced Al Quaeda to go to ground. Terrorism has lost its footing worldwide. Dictatorships in the ME are going wobbly. Freedom is winning.

We faced a tipping point 4 years ago, when it became very apparent that what we had accepted as a status quo in the Middle East not only wasn't working, it was breeding an ideology that would cause continual attacks on the United States. The adherents of this ideology could not be appeased, could not be reasoned with, would kill someone who was anti-war as readily as they would anyone else. We could sit back and expect more attacks, or take the fight to the enemy and make him die on OUR terms.

And that's the job of the soldier.

There will be more casualties, there will be more deaths. But what has been accomplished is legendary and the price for the accomplishments has been very, very low by any historical standard. Judge what's been done by the standards of World War 2, and it's been incredible. Judge it by Cold War standards, and the price is barely noticeable.

Thank goodness there are men willing to fight to protect their country. Let them be honored, let their names be recorded, let them never be forgotten - because out of their spilled blood freedom for millions has been bought.

J. Lawson
TSgt, USAFR, Ret.

Posted by: JLawson on October 26, 2005 05:20 PM

I am the daughter of a POW, so I understand (more than most) the sacrifice of our military, HOWEVER, I thought the goal in IRAQ was (according to Pres Bush) "REGIME CHANGE".

We accomplished that, didnt we?

So isnt it time to bring our troops home?

A young nation (back in 1776) fought for its freedom. Isnt it time we let IRAQ fight for its freedom too?

Posted by: Ruth on October 26, 2005 05:25 PM

Nice, JLawson.

Where is the running ticker of innocent civilians being murdered by islamic terrorists in Iraq and elsewhere around the world.

Where the libtards ticker for honored American war dead ticks over slowly, one click every so often, the Islamic tickers numbers would be clicking over like the numbers on a digital scale when Michael Moore stands on it.

Posted by: Bane on October 26, 2005 05:28 PM

Ruth, two of those Marines are my sons, and I don't want them home until the job is done, so they don't have to go back. You and I have no argument that the war is not being fought properly, but we are in a war, and it hasn't been won, yet. Roosevelt didn't finish the job, Truman did.

We have miles to go before we sleep.

Posted by: Bane on October 26, 2005 05:31 PM

Aye Bane, and in the words of Harry Truman: "Yes, yes, good...and may I add why not Nagasaki too?"

Posted by: Ruth on October 26, 2005 05:38 PM

Amen Bane. Godspeed your Marines.

Posted by: caltechgirl on October 26, 2005 06:01 PM

If we won't sacrifice 2000 of our precious soldiers to free tens of millions and start to drag the arab world kicking and screaming into the 20th, (not the 21st) century, then how many WOULD we sacrifice? One? None? 100? 1000? 627?
God bless every one of our troops and their families. They are saving the Islamic world from itself and giving all arabs and related peoples a CHANCE at a future where none existed at all.

Posted by: robert on October 26, 2005 07:08 PM

It apears as if you think that I don't support the war. I am a Sgt in the USAF. Check my blog if you would like, it's on the links list.

I am simply stating that a majority of the blogs I visited have made a big deal out of this, treating it as if it is a milestone. IT ISN'T.

There is no better way to forget the deaths of our soldiers than to selectively mourn them.

Posted by: Yogimus on October 26, 2005 08:08 PM

Thanks, Bane!

Yogimus - fully agree. I misunderstood your post, and I apologize if I offended.

Ruth - we accomplished the regime change, but pulling out now would be like taking someone who's an invalid, propping them on their feet, and asking them to take a 5 mile hike without help. They're doing more and more to support themselves, they're learning how to stand on their own two feet.

The worst thing we could do would be to pull back, because there's plenty of folks (Syria, Iran, and various Islamic terror groups) who would LOVE to knock Iraq back down again and stomp the shit out of them, so THEY could be in control.

Every day the Iraqi people get more used to living without a dictator at the helm. Every day their military gets more capable and stronger. Every day they need us less, and can do more. I expect in a year or so we'll be down to less than 50,000. In 5, around a thousand or so.

Patience, Grasshopper. Rome wasn't built in a day.

And you REALLY ought to look up the history behind the decision to bomb both Hiroshima and Nagasaki, not the PC-rewritten 'Japan was ready to give up any minute' version. Look up Operation Olympic too, while you're at it. My father was on a ship staging for that.


My own thoughts are, we're getting off damn easy. If we had dropped sanctions on Saddam, if he had reconsitituted his WMD and atomic programs like the Dulfer report indicated he had been planning, then the next time he felt froggy the butchers' bill would have been a lot higher. If Iran DOES develop nukes, and they DO start lobbing them at Israel - well, this 2000 is going to be a drop in the bucket. I'm hoping for an attack of mass sanity there, but I don't know if that'll happen in time.

J. Lawson
TSgt, USAFR, Ret.

Posted by: JLawson on October 26, 2005 08:36 PM

You gave that unworthy sort of an AcidBath or Acidlanche, whatever it's called, Juliette. Perhaps she'll link you in gratitude. Then again, it might be better if she didn't. You have plenty of moonbats showing up as it is.

I see that the thread has more comments than any of the others on the front page, all ones and zeroes on the rest.

Maybe a Christmas Card... Oops, that would probably be a Winter Festival card to that PC inflicted twit. [checks spelling on the last word ... Close enough.]

Posted by: StinKerr on October 26, 2005 10:40 PM

Who said Japan was ready to give up at any minute? I think the ONLY thing that FORCED them to give up was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. IN HARRY TRUMAN's OWN WORDS (after the bombing of HIROSHIMA):

"We are now prepared to obliterate more rapidly and completely every productive enterprise the Japanese have above ground in any city. We shall destroy their docks, their factories, and their communications. Let there be no mistake: we shall completely destroy Japan's power to make war.It was to spare the Japanese people from utter destruction that the ultimatum of July 26th was issued at Potsdam. Their leaders promptly rejected that ultimatum. If they do not now accept our terms, they may expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth."

TOO bad we dont have any Harry Trumans on the political landscape today. Harry would know how to deal with Fallujah, (and we wouldnt have to keep going back into that hell hole to root out the "insurgents", losing a few more Marines each time)

Posted by: Ruth on October 26, 2005 10:59 PM

Pull the troops out, and turn Baghdad into a giant sheet of glass. We have the shit to do it. Just my opinion. Or just let the the stupid fucks blow each other up, then we can make some collectable stuff out of the glass. Murry

Posted by: Murry on October 27, 2005 01:54 AM

P.S. Please pray for our troops! I am not religeous much , but I pray every night for our troopers.
Thanks y'all! Murry

Posted by: Murry on October 27, 2005 02:01 AM

Stinkerr: He trackbacked or I would have never have know that he existed. :-)

Posted by: Juliette on October 27, 2005 03:06 AM

Ruth, my apologies. Your comments were so much like some I've seen about how we were evil and bad and nasty for using evil and bad and nasty nuclear weapons on the just-about-to-surrender peace-loving people of Japan that I was reflexive. I apologize.


Posted by: JLawson on October 27, 2005 12:35 PM

Not a problem JLAWSON. I am often misunderstood.

Posted by: Ruth on October 27, 2005 12:39 PM
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