Gut Rumbles

September 19, 2005

I've wondered the same thing

All of my life, I've heard people referring to certain animals in a certain way that I didn't understand. I learned to speak the same way, but I'll admit that I don't have a clue what I'm talking about.

How about "F*cked up like Hogan's Goat"? I've heard this since I was an apprentice boy and have always wondered, Who is Hogan and what happened to the goat?

Posted by Jim at September 17, 2005 08:09 AM

That's like another one of my favorites: "It ran like Moody's Goose." Who was Moody? What was so special about HIS goose?

Anybody got any ideas?


I have always heard the phrase "I wouldn't know him (or her) from Hogan's goat. A quick Google search turned up a reference to a 1971 TV show and also the follwing :

Hogan's Goat
This phrase usually appears in the form As screwed up as Hogan's Goat. The Dictionary of American Regional English lists it. It connotes the idea of stinks like Hogan's goat. The phrase is attested to as early as c. 1942, but is probably considerably older.

Hogan in this sense is believed to derive from R.F. Outcault's cartoon of that name, better known as The Yellow Kid (c.1895-1901). Also in use is Hogan's alley used to connote untidiness.

Posted by: Florida Bill on September 19, 2005 12:10 PM

What about the use of "Adam's off ox?"
Surely that's a Southernism.

Posted by: BlogDog on September 19, 2005 11:28 PM

Then there is "crazy as a Bessie Bug"

I've lived down here all my life, and I still have never seen a Bessie Bug.

Posted by: PawPaw on September 20, 2005 06:57 AM

A Bessie Bug is actually a Betsy Beetle, and it can be found in rotten logs. East Texas is full of them. Whether or not they are crazy is another matter.

Posted by: James N. Beggs on July 15, 2006 07:45 AM

I always heard it as a song/poem. Something about Hogan eating the laundry. A train was coming and Hogan coughed up a red shirt he had eaten and that stopped the train.

That's what I'm looking for the original verse?? Any help???

Posted by: T Helmuth on July 31, 2006 09:49 PM

I recall this phrase from my time in the Navy refering to something that is really screwed up as being F*cked up as hogans goat

Posted by: Bob on September 25, 2007 07:39 PM

I remember the phrase "as F*ucked up as Horgan's Goat" from my time in Vietnam (1968) as Marine helicopter pilot, and I intend to use it as the title of a forthcoming book on Vietnam.

Posted by: Roy Stauth on April 19, 2008 03:59 PM

It's not Hogan's is Bill Grogan's goat, was feeling fine, Ate 10 red shirts from off the line. I forget the middle part but later he coughed up that shirt and flagged that train. A song from when I was young.

Posted by: Joyce on April 12, 2009 03:21 PM

As kids we worked for an old NYS farmer who hayed and raised pigs and goats. His name was James Hogan. We hayed in the late summer to earn some money. There was one goat mounted anything higher in the barnyard. When entering the yard he would attack, bite and butt relentlessly. He would go out of his way to come after you. Cars, trucks, machinery, it made no difference. So from then one we all said that guy, situation, etc is more screwed up than Hogans Goat. A True Story

Posted by: Shamus McQuade, USN SEAL (Ret) on January 12, 2010 03:40 PM
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