Gut Rumbles

August 05, 2005

my response

I found this in my comments and I had to read it a couple of times to figure out what the person was saying. YOU try it on for size:

My problem (and it's my problem) is that I'm having trouble with anything Jewish right now. My soon to be ex became re-energized with her religion and between that and the in-laws similar attitudes my puny protestant values became irrevelent. Now I find myself working to keep my kids open minded about religion. Every activity my wife (and her new boyfriend, nice jewish boy) finds for them seems to be centered on the Temple. I am firm believer in that religious beliefs are to be decided upon as a youth, it is a adult thing. Why is it OK to brainwash kids with a certain set of beliefs or with a set way to practice religion. All religions/sects are guilty of this. I want my kids to learn to understand all forms of religion and if they find one they like as an adult have an informed knowledge base to choose from, not one slanted from a single perspective.

Posted by Dishonorable Schoolboy at August 5, 2005 02:40 PM

Religion can be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on how the individual intreprets the teaching of whatever "Good Book" he reads. Mark Twain once said that we could float the armadas of every navy in the history of the world in the oceans of blood that have been spilled in the name of God. He was correct.

Look at Islamofascist terrorists now. Do they REALLY believe that they are doing God's work? If so, they are one fucked-up bunch. But they aren't the first to be fucked-up in the name of God.

Read your history. When the Spanish conquistadores came to central America, they always dragged a priest along. The priest gave the locals a chance to convert to Christianity, probably while he spoke in Latin, and the locals never understood a word he said. When the locals didn't immediately convert, it was okay for the soldiers to kill them all, because they were heathens.

That murder was done in the name of God.

I am NOT a religious man, but I have spent a lot of time around Jewish folk. I like them. They practice three things that remind me of the way I was raised. 1) They have a great family bond. 2) They believe in hard work. 3) They push their children to be more than they were themselves.

If that's a fault, I can't see it.

I speak a modicum of yiddish, and I think it's a great language. I can cuss you out to a fare-thee-well in yiddish, you... well never mind. I can say it, but I'm not sure that I can spell it.

One of the most joyful weddings I ever attended was a Jewish wedding, complete with a band and enough food to feed an army. Damn! That was one fine party. I even danced to that "have-a-tequila" tune, or whatever that was. I took two days to recover from that one.

But I'm getting away from my point here.

Religion is a personal choice, and I think nobody should be shoved into it, nor should anybody be brainwashed by it. My mama's church was very good to her from the time my father died until she closed her own good book. THAT'S what churches are for.

If you have to develop a faith you don't already have to marry someone, don't do it. That's a mistake. You either believe or you don't.

But anyone on the sidelines casting stones should put down the rocks, too. It's a no-win situation.


I think the point trying to be made here is that ALL religions think their religion is THE religion. What this person wants is their kids to be able to have a well-rounded religious education instead of there only being one way to believe and practice that belief.

I didn't get that this person had anything in particular against Jewish people exactly..that they would have the same feeling if it was a Baptist, or a Catholic, or whomever that was treating them that way.

"If you have to develop a faith you don't already have to marry someone, don't do it. That's a mistake. You either believe or you don't. "

That's true. You should know these things about a person when you get married and know if you're going to be able to live with it.

Posted by: Kelly on August 5, 2005 03:45 PM

I don't have much use for any organized religion but that's just me. Its a free country with freedom of religion. My biggest bitch about any religion is when the believers try to force their beliefs on me by passing laws to support their agenda. I figure that whatever floats their boat is fine with me providing they float it in their own pond.

Posted by: GUYK on August 5, 2005 05:14 PM

Kelly speaks much truth. As an MOT myself and having gone through one rotten divorce, the ex used "religious differences" as a red herring. We're both Jewish but she managed to find huge, nonexistent differences between where each of us went to Temple. In Christian terms, it's probably like pretending there's a bloody holy war between Presbyterians and Methodists.

In divorce, anything and everything is a weapon.

Posted by: Cappy on August 5, 2005 05:16 PM
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