July 29, 2005
I have some interesting comments on this post. I'm gonna give MY humble opinion on the matter.
I worked with a LOT of people who were in the National Guard or some military reserve unit. Most of 'em thought it was a gravy train. You get paid, you pile up more years for retirement, and you go to drill one weekend a month, then spend two weeks in the summer sleeping at Fort Stewart. Rough work.
Then, the gravy train derailed and they were asked to do what they were being paid to do, for all of those years that they did nothing. Go fight.
Got-Dam! That wasn't a free ride anymore and they couldn't smirk about drawing a "free" check every month for attending "duty" that involved no duty. Those fuckers are trying to bail out left and right now. I hope they do, beause we don't need those lazy bastards anyway.
I just have one question to ask: If you ENLIST in the National Guard or retain your reserve status when you exit the military, just what the fuck did you expect? Were you betting that you'd NEVER be called to active duty? Were you scamming the system for some bucks? Was the CHECK all you were in it for, and now that you're being asked to EARN the money, you don't want it anymore?
I don't buy that shit.
That's about as smart as saying, "I want to be a prize-fighter, I want to be paid for it, but I NEVER want to step into a ring." BEJUS! They all knew the job was dangerous when they took it. But it didn't SEEM dangerous at the time, and the checks just kept rolling in. Fat and happy, sucking the government tit. Life was good.
But now that it IS dangerous, they don't want the job. Good. We don't want that kind anyway, and the sooner they get their pussy asses out of the military, the better off the military will be.
Don't ever sign a check that your ass isn't willing to cash.
Couldnt have said it better myself. Bravo!
I was in the Reserves for the big 250K callup during the first desert war. It took a bunch of us by surprise, but we went and did our duty. Yeah, the Reserves was an easy paycheck until the bullets started flying. But we knew that the possibility of a callup was always there. When it happened, there was the normal bitching and moaning, but everyone expects that. Soldiers bitch and moan.
We went, and did our thing, and kicked a little ass. We believed that Bush quit too early, because we had turned and were headed to Baghdad when he shut us down.
Nowadays, the Reserves is absolutely considered part of the active military. If you are a member of the Reserve or Guard today, it ain' t a matter of IF you'll get called up, but WHEN you'll get called up. If you believe you will never be called up, then you are a total moron.
"Weak-end Warriors". I have heard so many stories from acquaintences like, "I'll just get pregnant and I will not have to go...", What the flip? Too many excuses to list.
How 'bout , "you don't want to go?" "Can you spell Leavenworth?" And, "The educational benefits...just make the repayment check for cash."
The Greatest Generation were jumping through their rectums to enlist during WW II. The Pussification of America, the Peace Generation, Dimocrat Elitists, and wimps want to just offer a flower of peace and have all of the enemies of freedom and democracy feel good about themselves because "We feel your pain".
Gimme a break! No, gimme an M-14 and I 'll wait for them on my doorstep.
Don't get me wrong on this post. Some of the first people called up were all in supply and logistics, and most of them knew good and well that this possibilty was something they agreed to do when called.
They didn't bitch. They WENT.
But the MSM will drive 500 miles to find some whiney bastard who can cry into the microphone about how rotten his life is now that he has been asked to DO what he agreed to DO.
That's my definition of a real pussy. "I want the money, I want the uniform, but I don't want to fight!"
During the Vietnam fiasco I had the opportunity to serve with some Air Guard and Air Reserve crews. These guys were pros and I respected them as much as the Regulars-
wow hit the nail on the head again. i was active duty during desert storm and re-joined 1 month to the day b4 911. i don't have any issues with the contract or doing my job ( by the way i'm an infantryman) we have people in my unit who have never been deployed (this is my 2nd reserve unit) and are scared out of their freaking minds that they'll have to do something for that nice little college fund they got going on. mean while i've just volunteered for my 3rd tour in iraq. jesus whats the world coming too
Thank you, dancingbear. You rock! God bless and Godspeed.
Well I've met more than my fair share of real good reservists and National Guard.
Active duty: (USAF)
Individuals who are required to fill mission critical support roles. Roles that require constant manning. Squadrons that do not require to be fully manned in times of peace.
Reserve duty: (USAF)
Squadrons that can be generated to full warfighting capability when necessary, but can be maintained at a skeleton crew level in times of peace.
By the nature of this setup, reservists are MUCH more likely to be in a warzone. The guard falls under the same rules.
Oh, and one more thing....
For every asshat that embarrasses their service, there are 12 others that serve their nation with pride. Think of all the people you worked with. INCLIDING the ones you fired. What was the ratio at your job?
So before you brand the people I work with on a daily basis, go ahead and unfuck yourself, gather a clue, and try to get the complete picture. Sorry you met an asshole.. now go out and meet the rest.
... incliding is much like inclUding... interchangeable in fact... no really...
"Got-Dam! That wasn't a free ride anymore and they couldn't smirk about drawing a "free" check every month for attending "duty" that involved no duty. Those fuckers are trying to bail out left and right now. I hope they do, beause we don't need those lazy bastards anyway."
"I just have one question to ask: If you ENLIST in the National Guard or retain your reserve status when you exit the military, just what the fuck did you expect? Were you betting that you'd NEVER be called to active duty?"
Obviously George W. Bush thought this was the case. He had daddy get him into the National Guard because he knew that he would NEVER be called to active duty back during the Vietnam war. Hell, not only did he dodge the draft, he went AWOL from the Guard and he STILL HASN'T TOLD THE TRUTH to this day about where he was during that missing year he can't seem to account for. But he has no problem sending National Guardsman to go die in this fucking war he lied to create. And YOU have some real gotdam gall to critcicize ANY Guardsman you chickenhawk piece of shit after you avoided the fucking call to serve your country during a draft for the Vietnam war. Yet you sit up here now and talk like you are so fucking righteous and patriotic. You are a sack of shit Acidbrain and always will be.
"George Bush... AWOL...", Once again pj proves to be the idiot that we have come to expect him to be...
Ditto what GUYK said. I was active duty USAF from '58-'84. Air Force Guard & Reserve troops I worked with were, without exception, thoroughly professional.
God bless all our troops and thanks for your service. I couldn't be prouder that our successors are the greatest bunch of ass-kickers ever.
I served 21 years divided between the guard, and active. I always bristled at the name weekend warrior. Most of the guys I served in the guard with had more training than the average Joe in an active unit. My brothers platoon in the guard had two ex Seals, a Marine recon and several Rangers as well as one SF. We had guys who volunteered to help train active duty for ski borne ops at no pay.
My former section leader was the oldest guy called back to duty for desert storm. he had the distinction of awards from WW2 Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, and the Gulf.
It peeves me to see the fair weather warriors who chuck and run at the first call to duty. We had them when I was in though too. Several guys who bragged that they could be in Canada before We got our shit together to go after them.
To me, the weekend warriors were the guys who went to the bars on Saturday and declared war on the local prostitute populace.