June 25, 2005

Lock & load, amigo, lock& load. This shit needs to stop.

Cue the music....(and with apologies to Woody Guthrie)

"This land aint YOUR land,
This land is THEIR land,
This land just aint the land of the free"....

Thats all I got...but you get the point...

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Property"
(One down, two to go)......

And if you think it appears bad NOW, just wait until Hillary "Whitewater Real Estate Mogul" Clinton is president.....

No person will inhabit my land as long as I breathe. I would of lost it all anyway so I may as well go down fighting.

The slippery slope just increased in angle a few more degrees.

This is going to get out of hand quick, its only a matter of time before someone dies. When you back people into a corner about their family, or property, it is bound to happen.

Case like that here. Because of all the news coverage, the final decision has been postponed. In Conn., there is undeveloped land which could be used for the same purpose w/o having to take any more. Why was it seized? PZIFER employees wanted to be close enough to work to be able to walk.

Worst part is two of those five were appointed by Republican presidents.
You have to be careful when you vet someone for life.
Elections do count. And GB better get it right.

This must go down as the worst "final straw" in a string of bad decisions leading to state vs. individual property rights going down the tubes.

The whirling noise from the founding fathers is hurting my ears.

The REALLY big problem is that this has been going on for quite some time, but now that the Supreme Court has ruled on it, it will be open fucking season for any shit-hole town to condemn your property so that they can have a fucking Wal-Mart.

I don't like the decision. However, I do believe that we are upset at the wrong people. The supreme court upheld a state law that allowed condemning property in this manner under the immenent domain clase in the Federal constitution. The thing to do now is to contact your state representatives and pressure them into passing state laws to prohibit this kind of legalized theft.

Another option in states where it can be accomplished, such as Florida, is a petition to put a state constitutional amendment on the ballet. The voters can stop this madness if they unite against it. I recommend a constitutional amendment when possible at state levels. Laws passed can be changed but it is tough as hell to change a state constitution.

I don't know though, since the marijuana ruling also incorporated the fact (or re-enforced it) that federal law oversteps state law, so even if the state says no, an appeal to the supreme court would shoot it down anyway, correct?

Thomas Jefferson was right about the supreme court being a dangerous idea. You're right acidman, we'd be better off without them.

Billy D. Maybe, but I don't think so in this case. The marijuana laws are federal laws-not a constitutional issue. Congress could change the laws to allow medicinal use of pot-and I hope that they eventually do so.

The imminent domain issue is a constitutional question and the issue is what constitutes public good. There was several precedents; condeming land and selling it to the railroads over 100 years ago for example. Also several urban development programs have used the same constitutional clause.
I believe that if states word there laws,( or preferrably their constitutions) about imminent domain to the effect that imminent domain will not be used to help private industry there will be no problems with the supreme court.

But, I'm not a lawyer nor have I saved any money on my car insurence. Mostly Just repeating what I have read on some other
blogs.

What an historically awful decision. We'll have a thousand little Tammany Halls appearing. Good to see the outrage.

Fred: yep. And we the voters can do something about by demanding the ass sucking politicians to do something about it.

Rope. Trees. Supreme Court Justices.
Justice indeed, for once.

We are moving ever closer to the feudal system. The concept of allodial title dies a bit each day. This ruling by the Supreme Court does nothing but continue our slow but certain slide into totalitarianism.

What they need to take are these old abondend buildings that are eye sore and tear then down and bulild something nice. I see more empty shops and stores that need to go. Lets start with those, not the houses people live in. I feel my constitual rights have been violated, buy the people who are suppose to protect them. All hell just let another murder off death row. Ok i will get off my box now.

My grandma, like one of the Kelo victims, has lived in the same home for 87 years. If these politico-thiefs ever come to bulldoze her, I hope my grandfather teaches the tools of fascism in the U.S. what he taught the tools of German fascism in Europe back in the day. The Supreme Court sentenced unknown persons to premature death with this decision.

This amounts to legal stealing, thats all.
Please define for me "Fair Market Value"
What about lost revenue? What about the cost to move the plant elsewhere? What about the employees that will be out of work during the transition? What about interest and debts owed? I think if they were to PAY double the fair market value price then that might be approaching fair.

Darth- Your constitutional rights HAVE been violated. You've just been bent over a desk by the Supreme Court and raped with a sandpaper condom, as has any landowner in this country.

There are two solutions to this: Impeach every single judge who voted for this monstrosity, or Civil War.

This time, we're better armed.

We should focus our efforts on state legislatures
and make certain we pass laws that restrict
the scope of the decision or we're all going
to be living next to "attractive, tax generating" land
like the res. of conn.

If they come for MY property, they better damn well bring some body bags, 'cause I will be shooting to kill. Fuckers. Fucking fuckers. I have fucking had it up to here with these assholes. You want my property, you better damn well be prepared to die for it. Bottom line.

The 5th Amendment has been eviscerated. Time to start exercising the 2nd.