Gut Rumbles

May 19, 2005

esoteric interests

I was surprised to learn that a lot of people knew who John Scarne was. I thought that he was one of my esoteric heroes. So... have you ever heard of THESE people?

#1-- Jan Cremer

#2-- Joseph Glidden

#3-- Richard Matheson

#4-- Carlos Castanda

#5-- Beau Brummel

#6-- Charles Baudelaire

#7-- Edgar Cayce

#8-- James Wright

#9-- George Donner

#10-- D. B. Cooper

THOSE are the kinds of people who fascinate me. Am I twisted, or what? Do YOU know who they are... or were?


I don't recognize any of those names. If they had middle intials I'd say they were serial killers, but this way, no idea. Poor little young'n

Posted by: Alli on May 19, 2005 11:26 PM

castenada, looked for mushrooms in mexico
brummel, a natty dresser
baudelaire, french cheeseeating surrender writer
cayce, famous seer
db cooper, jumped out the the back of a jet in southern washington with the loot. go db!

Posted by: lg on May 19, 2005 11:39 PM

D.B. Cooper is one of those guys you will always wonder about what really happened to him. Did he get away? Did he become a permanent tree angel? Who knows....

Posted by: Dean on May 19, 2005 11:42 PM

A few familiar names, Jan Creamer, Carlos Costanada, Beau Brummel (a fun one! LOL), George Donner, DB interesting list really.
Ed Gein might be a nice addition if you're looking for facinating people. (that way Alli would have one right, although, he wasn't exactly a killer)

Posted by: PattiG on May 19, 2005 11:46 PM

Richard Matheson wrote "I am Legend", which became "The Last Man on Earth", which eventually became "The Omega Man".

Also wrote a bunch of Twilight Zone for Serling. Other than that I have no idea who the fucker is.

Posted by: Velociman on May 19, 2005 11:53 PM

JD's list, plus George Donner. Interesting selections. Or maybe it's just because I'm twisted - - -

Posted by: Indigo on May 19, 2005 11:56 PM

Cayce and Castenada: wackos.
Cooper: probably, but a RICH wacko if he survived.
Donner: debatable. Maybe he was just hungry.
Glidden: not a loony. Tho barbed wire does have a certain attraction for some people....
Creamer: definitely, if this is the wacko PETA-loving Creamer.

Posted by: Horrabin on May 20, 2005 12:32 AM

Huh, What, Who??

Posted by: gravdigr on May 20, 2005 12:45 AM

Horribin--- I am impressed. You knew that Joe Glidden invented barbed wire.

Posted by: Acidman on May 20, 2005 01:09 AM

Well Beau Brummel is easy and Castanda is too.
DB Cooper - damn straight! Out the door with the loot!
And Donner?
Soon after I moved to Northern California I heard the joke
"Donnner, the Donner party. Your table for 7 is ready."
"Ah, make that your table for 6..."

Posted by: Douglas von Roeder on May 20, 2005 01:30 AM

The 68 Mets?

Posted by: kemp on May 20, 2005 01:54 AM

I recognized D.B. Cooper right off the bat. James Wright and George Donnor sound familier. Richard Matheson is... I don't know for sure, it's like on the edge of my mind.

Posted by: Adam Lawson on May 20, 2005 02:20 AM

#1-- Jan Creamer

Don't have a friggin clue

#2-- Joseph Glidden

Barbed wire? Don't remember for sure. I was a history major in a past life and I recall something about him.

#3-- Richard Matheson

Sci-fi writer, most notably the Night Stalker

#4-- Carlos Castanda

Don't know

#5-- Beau Brummel

English dude in the early 1800's.

#6-- Charles Baudelaire

Cheese-Eating surrender monkey, but a good poet either way.

#7-- Edgar Cayce


#8-- James Wright

Don't know off the top of my head right now.

#9-- George Donner

Tried to cross the Sierra Nevadas, a bit of cannibalism going on.

#10-- D. B. Cooper

Skyjacker that got away

Posted by: rmiles on May 20, 2005 05:48 AM

D. B. Cooper? He was a nobody. I think you're referring to Dan Cooper...

(Perpetual wiseass)

Posted by: Jay Tea on May 20, 2005 06:01 AM

As a former acidhead Castenada's books were a must. Don Juan and Don Genaro were heroes. I could see the lines of the world back then. I had an Orgone Accumulator.

Posted by: DaneBramage on May 20, 2005 12:21 PM

1. jan creamer invented half and half cream. in honor of his accomplishment, the word "creamer" was introduced into the english language to describe a vaguely milky substance which usually ends up in one's coffee but sometimes, in certain circumstances, on one's face.

2. joseph glidden invented glidden paint.

3. richard matheson wrote science fiction stories about paint and creamer

4. carlos castanda invented castanets which are those little shell like thingies that mexicans click together with their fingers when they're falling down drunk which is usually most of the time

5. beau brummel was a sixties rock group

6. charles baudelaire is famous for coining the phrase "baudy" as in "lord i feel like a baudy woman even though i am, in reality, a small, worm like man"

7. edgar cayce was a famous writer of mystery stories. every year an award is given out in his name to the best mystery writer in the land. the award is in the form of a little metal statue which isnt good for much of anything except for using it to beat your wife's ex-lover who keeps sniffing around even though you told him if he didnt stop, you were gonna smash his head in with a little metal statue...

8. james wright is one of the wright brothers (orville and james wright). people always think that the wright brothers collectively came up with the concept of man in flight. in reality it was oroville who worked on the actual physical dynamics of aeroplanes while it was james who came up with idea for bad airline food and rude, surly airline stewardesses

9. george donner was the leader of the donner party who were stranded way high up in the rocky mountains and had to cannabalize each other until there was nothing left but donner's dog tags.

10. d. b. cooper was the guy in washington state who pulled off the last successful hijacking in the united states. he became the stuff of folklore when he managed to extort $200,000 and escape in a plane. while the plane was in mid-flight, he jumped from the plane with only a parachute to protect him. he was never found although his money was found buried in the sand along the columbia river. cooper has attained some sort of hero status with a lot of the locals because of his feat which i never understood because, even though he was never found, it's likely he ended up impaled on a three hundred foot tall old growth evergreen fir which means he didnt get away with his crime but, instead, paid the ultimate price for his trangressions which doesnt make him much of a hero at least as far as i am concerned...

Posted by: mr. helpful on May 20, 2005 12:47 PM

I've read Edgar Casey's books and I know who D.B. Cooper is.

Posted by: Maeve on May 20, 2005 02:39 PM

I got you all wrong.. I figgered you would be more into Billy Sol Estes and Stevie Ray Vaugh and William Humphrey..

Posted by: Wild Bill on May 20, 2005 03:37 PM

I believe I know (and mostly appreciate) all of them -- if Jan Creamer is Jan Cremer, the Dutch artist who wrote two hilarious books (I, Jan Cremer and Jan Cremer Writes Again). If so, I'll bet Pumpman loved the painting with the "special brush" parts. If not, I got no clue. If you never read it, check out "Guilty of Everything" by Herbert Huncke. He's a junkie SOB who gave William S. Burroughs his first shot, but his autobiography might appeal to someone who likes Jan Cremer. Or any of the Beat stuff.


Posted by: Nolo Contendere on May 20, 2005 06:23 PM

James Wright invented Silly Putty.

Posted by: Acidman on May 20, 2005 08:34 PM

You're twisted.

Posted by: Kim du Toit on May 20, 2005 09:01 PM

Joseph Glidden invented barbed barbed wire in DeKalb, IL, a town where I lived for many years. I used to live in an townhouse where my yard adjoined the old Glidden Farmhouse.

It's a small world, isn't it

Posted by: Rick on May 21, 2005 02:33 AM
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