Gut Rumbles

April 24, 2005

i wondered about this story

Here are some gory details right here. Why would police handcuff a five year-old girl?

Maybe they had their reasons.

Some kids are just plain feral today and the teachers in school aren't allowed to deal properly with them (and Bejus knows, the parents obviously don't, either). Some five year-olds aren't the way I was when I was five. Read the post. Watch the video.

Then... tell me what the future may hold for that feral little girl.


This is what comes of political correctness run amok, Some times people (kids and adults) need a good dressing down! Not this namby pamby crap we get so much of today. As for the Cops as I understand it two of them were trainees not even regular cops. Maybe they need some cuff time just to let them know what it feels like...... Just wonder if the little girl got a good whoopin before they went to the lawyer?

Posted by: witch on April 24, 2005 04:35 PM

One of the biggest problems with kids today - parents are not allowed to deal with them as our parents dealt with us when we were that age. If I acted up (meaning didn't listen or disobeyed) I got my ass busted and sent to bed. Try to do that today,,,see where you (as a parent) find yourself!

Posted by: Michele on April 24, 2005 05:01 PM

Unfortunately, I think the future for that little girl involves public appearances with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

Given this story was on the Clinton News Network yesterday, I'm surprised it hasn't happened already. Must be the weekend news cycle....

Posted by: Grumpy Old Ham on April 24, 2005 05:50 PM

As a Childcare Provider for the last 20 years I can say I've seen it all!!

This child reminds me of one of my families. The mother says the child has AD/HD. He was out of control. She needed him drugged.

What crap! The only time he acts like that is with his mother. Because he has NO dicipline with her. NONE.

Does he act that way with me? No
Does he act that way with dad? No
Does he act that way for his grandparents? No.
Does he act this way at school? Yes in teacher A's class ~ No in teacher B's class.

He doesn't need med's he needs to have his mother go to some sort of parenting bootcamp.

Mom's probably thrilled about this girl. She stands to make a mint off of this.

Posted by: Symph on April 24, 2005 06:27 PM

Listen to the family's lawyer spout off:

"I'm concerned that the educators shadowed and hovered around the young girl," he said. "It certainly gives credence to the argument that they may have been provoking her to act out more. To me, it didn't look like a de-escalation. It looked like an escalation, an attempt to get her to act out more. I just don't understand why they didn't distance themselves back further and allow things to cool off."

Escalation? Asking a spoiled little brat to behave herself and act like a human being is "excalation"? Asking an out of control little temper-tantrum throwing kid to NOT trash someone's office is "escalation"? I don't think so. Put the little snit in handcuffs and maybe she won't rip anything apart the next time.

And it seems to me that this kid already has a history with the police. When an officer walks up and asks "Remember me?" that's a good indication that this kid already has a history with the police.

Gee, the cream of humanity.

If I had done anything like that kid, my dad would have told the police to keep me in handcuffs for a good long time. And after I got home, I wouldn't have been able to sit for a week.

Posted by: Raging Dave on April 24, 2005 06:57 PM

Ever notice that children's services only gets involved when the parent actually disciplines their child? If I were this child's mother, I would probably be sitting in jail right now for "child abuse".

Posted by: oregano on April 24, 2005 07:02 PM

The parents of this child should have been hauled off in handcuffs.
As an educator, I was happy to see how the asst principal handled herself.
The "cops" are campus security and if you listen closely, one states that they have done this before and had told her mom that he would 'put handcuffs on the next time', so he was following through with what he had told the mom.
Can you imagine this girl in 8 years doing this? I hope they are able to get her the help she needs...give her parents a quick kick in the ass. Did you notice who released the video to the public...the parents lawyer. He is crazy if he thinks that this is helping his case.

Posted by: mountainmama on April 24, 2005 08:32 PM

I see absolutely nothing wrong with putting an out of control child in handcuffs. To be honest, it is quite possibly safer than having anyone physically restrain them. A child will try to get out of the cuffs, but they'll stop when it hurts. It's quite possible to hurt someone while you're trying to restrain them...whether inadvertently or through frustration.

The little girl in that video was clearly out of control...this was no normal 5 year old hissy fit. If I were that girl's mother, I would die of embarassment at the disservice I had done to her...not suing people who have NO other choice about what to do with her. It breaks my heart to see a little kid cry and scream like that...despite the fact she had spent the previous hour acting like an animal. The only thing I'd change about the way it was handled is that the mother should have been in cuffs right along side the daughter.

Posted by: Chablis on April 24, 2005 09:02 PM

I had a a class I had to take in Hs. Very 'huggy feely'.

They were asking the question "why are we afraid of the police" Is it because of jail or blah, blah, blah. When it came my turn to answer I said I'm not afraid of the police. The teacher was of course surprised by this. Why not? I'm not afraid of the police. I'm not afraid of the school administration. I'm scared spitless of my mother.

Put me in detention ~ just don't tell her!

I love my mother dearly but I was also afraid of her. A healthy does of fear is a good thing.

Posted by: Symph on April 24, 2005 09:40 PM

Think of the possibilitys.......If this child can learn to overcome this sort of behavior she would be awesome at presenting anger management classes. Or perhaps teaching people to overcome bad matter if she continues as she is it will be a small room with no view in a high security prison.
As a youth I was, well to be kind, in need of behavior modification. This was given to me ,joyfully, by teachers,principals parents friends parents, and most anyone else I managed to piss off. It is what taught me to conform to acceptable standards and become a good citizen. I hope she see the error of her ways cause it is going to be a misreable life for her if she don`t.

Posted by: arathorn on April 25, 2005 08:06 AM

Maybe I am just old but back in the ancient days my teacher would have beat my ass, the principal would have beat my ass and my dad would have damn near killed me. I knew what would happen and so did every other kid in school. We didn't have these problems because I did not dare shame my family by acting like that. I would personally like to shoot the stupid son of a whore who took dicipline out of the schools.

Posted by: James Old Guy on April 25, 2005 09:21 AM
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