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January 14, 2005

torture

You don't have to answer this question, but I want you to ponder it: "Have YOU ever been arrested?" I don't mean for being a terrorist or waging war against this country. I'm talking about being carted off for a misdemeanor offense right here in the United States of America.

I have. It was not a pleasant experience. I was handcuffed, man-handled, roughed-up, searched, mug-shot and thrown into a cell that resembled a ceramic tile bathroom in filthy Greyhound bus station. I found myself in the company of armed robbers and murderers, many of whom had foul, threatening attitudes. I was served food that I wouldn't ask a dog to eat.

Was I TORTURED??? I don't think so.

I was in JAIL. You're NOT SUPPOSED TO LIKE IT THERE!!! You're supposed to want to get out and never come back. You're supposed to learn a lesson. You're supposed to look around and conclude, "This really sucks," and mend the behavior that put you there in the first place. That plan sure as hell worked on me.

What is it that some whining politicians and idiots such as Andrew Sullivan want us to do with "insurgent" prisoners? Treat them better than we do US citizens arrested for DUI on a Friday night? Put them up in a suite at the Ritz and feed them caviar? Handle them with kid gloves?

I call bullshit. Treat 'em humanely, but make the experience unpleasant. That's not torture. That's PUNISHMENT, and those fuckers deserve it. If you can't see the difference, you ain't right in the head.

YOU need to spend a night in jail.

(UPDATE: Evidently, some people never heard of Andrew Sullivan. You can read him here and enjoy gems such as this one:

MCLELLAN'S TORTUOUS ANSWERS: Another must-read from Marty Lederman on the pirouettes Scott McLellan now has to perform to prevent the obvious conclusion that the administration supports the use of torture and cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment of some detainees. McLellan's point is that the administration resisted the idea of a Congressional ban on cruel, inhumane and degrading practices for the CIA outside U.S. territory because it was already banned and the legislation was superfluous. Yet Condi Rice's letter at the time stated that she opposed the new restrictions because they would "provide legal protections to foreign prisoners to which they are not now entitled under applicable law and policy." So it would change things but was also redundant? I don't get it. Poor McLellan. It's only going to get worse.

I have absolutely no idea where his outrage comes from. He does a lot of hyperventilation, but he doesn't provide any specifics for why he's hyperventilating. But I fear, if he doesn't change his medication, it's only going to get worse.)

Andrew, you're being an ass.


Comments

What exactly was he talking about, is there a quote or a link, where I can see what type of bullshit he was talking?

Posted by: Guy Real on January 14, 2005 11:08 AM

"Humane" is apparently a relative term for those of the LLL persuasion...just like every other word in the English language.

Posted by: Amy on January 14, 2005 11:38 AM

Been there, Done that, and I agree whole heartedly. Jail ain't supposed to be fun. As far as I'm concerned, you do the crime, you do the time. And, in jail you should loose every right you ever even thoyught about having.

Posted by: Ronnie on January 14, 2005 11:41 AM

Christ, Guy. Andrew has been throwing off vapors for a week now. Check my blogroll under "Tall Dogs" or just go to www.andrewsullivan.com.

Don't tell me you never heard of him.

Posted by: Acidman on January 14, 2005 11:54 AM

The point is that Andrew is so indifferent about what you write about him..... and has so many more readers.
But you can send him an email telling him that there exist a guy in America who calls himself acidman.

Posted by: John on January 14, 2005 12:35 PM

I don't give a fuck if Andrew Sullivan knows my name or not. I'll call him an asshole when he is one.

John... you LIKE celebrities, don't you? Go hump on one of their legs.

Posted by: Acidman on January 14, 2005 12:51 PM

Acidman,
celebrity or not, at least I like to know what I'm writing about before I start writing. - as opposed to that stupid GUY REAL above:
"What exactly was he talking about, is there a quote or a link, where I can see what type of bullshit he was talking?" talking about things he has never seen or read. Real asshole!

Posted by: John on January 14, 2005 01:08 PM

Oh yes...You ain't lived until you've been in jail.

Posted by: Sam on January 14, 2005 01:14 PM

Andrew Sullivan WAS a conservative and Bush supporter but became anti-Bush because of the gay marriage issue; rather than admit as much, Sullivan writes sloppy anti-Bush blather, often injecting his screeds with neither facts nor coherency.

Posted by: Vitriolics on January 14, 2005 01:46 PM

Well, vitriolic commenter, that's why Andrew has his own blog.

Posted by: John on January 14, 2005 02:01 PM

Sam, you are correct. But you didn't learn a damn thing from the first trip if you go back to jail a second time.

I didn't like it there. I don't EVER want to go back.

Posted by: Acidman on January 14, 2005 04:15 PM

Been there, done that, don't want to go back. And mine was just a couple of hours for a DUI (5 years ago and never again). It's a big shock for a person who normally resides on the right side of the law, and it made/makes a big impression. For the fuckhead repeat offenders of any/all other sundry offenses, it obviously doesn't have the same impact. For them and the Iraqi prisoners or those in Gitmo, all I say is fuck'em. And put away the cameras.

Posted by: don on January 14, 2005 07:35 PM

You know, the industrial-strength toilets in jail will actually flush a rather large-sized orange?

At least, that's what I've heard...

Posted by: Evilwhiteguy on January 14, 2005 09:45 PM

JB--- you are an unflushable turd. YOU wouldn't go to jail if the cops arrested and cuffed you? My ass, you wouldn't. There's more of them than there is of YOU, and your ass is going to jail--- you just decide whether or not you want the shit beat out of you first.

Preach on. Then practice what you preach.

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