Gut Rumbles

September 05, 2004

who gives a shit?

Whoop-te-do. Medicare is getting more expensive. Surprise, surprise, surprise.

It'll go completely broke in a few years, thanks to politicians who don't have the balls to tell "the elderly" to go fuck themselves and stop clacking their dentures for more "benefits" than the government can afford. If you can't afford to live on your own, have the good grace to die with dignity. You ain't gonna live forever no matter WHAT the government does for you.

A lot of old people are worse than children. "Gimme!" is all they know how to say and they vote in droves to get what handouts they can grab. I blame FDR for this shit, and I blame old people, too. A more selfish bunch I've never seen.

Got-dam! You people want to keep your liver-spotted, pacemaker-enhanced, hearing-aided, withered-shanked, bifocaled, right-turn-signal-constantly-blinking asses alive at the cost of your grandchildren's future, and you want it all FOR FREE!!!

Fuck you.


Amen, brother.

My generation (under 40) will probably go down as the one that winds up paying the most to get the least from all these "entitlements."

Posted by: rudy on September 5, 2004 02:39 PM

Agreed. How about some means testing for Medicare *and* social security? I see lots of these old shitpokes driving around in Cadillacs and Crown Victorias. I would bet a paycheck that most of them also own their home outright, and have more than enough income to pay for their own medical insurance, as well as their prescriptions.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem helping folks who really need help, but this shit is getting to be re-God-damned-diculous. These are called "entitlement programs" by the government. I have read the Constitution many times, and I just read it again to be sureóI cannot find anywhere in there anything said about my having to pay for others health careónot a word. If one considers that the Constitution was written taking into account the truths stated in the Declaration of Independence, the government isn't even *allowed* to entitle anyone *anything*. Quite the opposite, the government exists to serve the people, not the other way around. Any "entitlements" discussed in either of these documents are God given, and not granted by the government.

Posted by: Anthony L. on September 5, 2004 04:02 PM

Dear shit-for-brains Holden,

Get your nose out of Limbaugh's ass long enough to get informed and you're likely to find

While business is improving, average wages have fallen, job satisfaction has declined and the rich-poor gap widened..

And in terms of recouping jobs since the start of the recession, the US is in a worse position "than any business cycle since the 1930s".

Mr Bush has presided over large-scale job losses since taking office in 2000, and despite almost three years of recovery, the labour market is still "too weak".

"Unemployment is essentially unchanged, job growth is stalled and real wages have started to fall behind inflation,.

With the return of higher unemployment and weaker labour demand, the poverty rate has risen again and real incomes have fallen most quickly for the least well off.

Moreover, unemployment has actually risen 1.3 percentage points since the start of the recession in 2001, when it stood at 4.3%

Now you can keep getting your ideas and talking points from the tin-foil hat beanie crowd, or wake up and see the world for what it really is.

Is it worth the effort?

Posted by: Marx-duped Hippie on September 5, 2004 04:55 PM

Shit-for -Brains,

Is there ANY cliche you didn't use in telling us about
the US economy? My facts come from the Economic Policy Institute. The report was just issued. But you
won't find it in Meathead Monthly or on Fox News.

Stop living in the past. The EU had a GDP that surpasses that of the USA. Today. This year. Stop living in the past. !

Posted by: Marx-duped Hippie on September 5, 2004 07:46 PM

I am not an economist, nor do I play one on the internet like Rudy and Holden. But, I can tell you this:

Some Bush apologists are arguing we should not try to get back to an employment market where EP = 64.4%, which is odd since the Bush Administration still argues the economy was weakening when it took office.

But EPís peak in early 2000 was only 64.7%. Noting that EP reached 63.9% in July 1997 and continued to rise staying above this level through April 2004, it is reasonable to argue that the natural rate of EP is at least 64%.

If the natural EP ratio is 64%, then the 62.2% EP ratio as of August 2003 suggests we should have had 141.764 million employed.

This estimate suggests unemployment was 4.071 million. The 62.4% EP ratio last month suggests we should have had 143.153 million employed.

This estimate suggests unemployment has fallen to 3.472 million, that is, a 15% reduction over the last year.

Unless someone can demonstrate fewer Americans WANT to work the next president Bush or Kerry is going to have a heap of economic trouble on his hands.

Posted by: Grahame on September 5, 2004 10:15 PM

Anthony, I paid payroll taxes for 49 years. No idea how much I paid in or how much it would have appreciated in private investments or plain old passbook savings. One thing I do know: I'll never get out all I paid in. Means testing? Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. That's MY motherfuckin money they'll never give back!!!

Posted by: Larry on September 6, 2004 01:59 PM

This guy Holden is as good an example of a Bushie as one is ever to find. His mind is closed, his grasp on reality is tenuous at best.

To him, Bush's going AWOL, using cocaine, being a habitual drunk, and even being involved in getting a girl pregnant out of wedlock, then arranging an abortion for her is of no consequence, while Kerry having volunteered, served and then legally protested Vietnam doesn't deserved medals because he didn't bleed.

For Holden, Bush could go on live TV having sex with a small boy atop a dead girl while burning pages from the Bible--and still have support of Holden and his fellow travellers.

That's why it's a waste of time discussing politics with these moonies. It's a cult. Close-minded, irrational booga-booga Hillary bashers.

Posted by: Richard Dana on September 6, 2004 02:51 PM

Way to stay on topic, Richard Dana.

This is an economic discussion, not a political one.

Acidman's point is that one generation is asking (demanding) that they be given substantial asets from (several) younger generations.

Does this make sense to you? Yes or no?

Will it help expand our economy to take a pile of cash from one group and give it to another?

Yes or no?

Posted by: rudy on September 6, 2004 04:08 PM

I guess then, you would be satisfied with getting back just what you put in then? Just asking 's all.

Posted by: Anthony L. on September 8, 2004 08:43 AM
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