Gut Rumbles

August 13, 2004


I posted a comment on this blog and I decided to copy it onto a post. Some people seem to have a really difficult time deciding what makes a good leader. I don't.

I was an upper-level manager in a chemical plant for much of my life. Anybody who believes that Bush should have jumped up from that classroom and run to the rescue of his country knows NOTHING about leadership. A good leader has people in charge of things that THEY are supposed to handle when the shit hits the fan. That's why they are there. That's what they get paid to do.

If you pick the right people, you don't have to scramble out of a classroom to take charge of whatever is happening at the time. You know that the right people will handle the crisis and inform you about it later. You make the final decisions, but you DON'T call all the shots.

That's leadership.

The opposite is MICROMANAGMENT, which appears to be what leftists want today. Jimmy Carter tried that tactic and fell flat on his ass. Ronald Reagan had the right idea. "Just drive the car where I tell you to go and wake me when we get there."

He didn't drive the car himself. He hired a good driver and slept in the back seat, knowing that the car was going in the right direction.

That's leadership.

If you ever worked for me and wanted to piss me off, call me at 2:00 in the morning because you were too afraid to make a decision. Call me because you didn't have the BALLS to do what you were paid to do. I'd make the decision, then I would rake your ass over the coals the next day for being a gelding when I wanted a stud. THAT'S leadership.

Anybody who thinks a President handles EVERYTHING that comes down the pike has never been a boss.


Oh man, you SO hit the nail square on the head!! The sign of a good manager is how well the department runs when they aren't there. I know I have the right people in place to do what needs done. What would it have accomplished to run out of a classroom hundreds of miles away? None!

Posted by: Michele on August 13, 2004 09:14 PM

Conversely, have you ever had the misfortune to work for someone who WANTED that phone call, or more accurately, wanted no one else to make any decisisons, even people supposedly hired to be decision makers?

Been there. Recently, too.

I'll never do it again.

Posted by: Bill Dennis on August 13, 2004 09:47 PM

AMEN ! ! !
Leaders help subordinates become leaders.
Micro-managers = bullshit packed in a shirt.

Posted by: Dan Pursel on August 13, 2004 09:50 PM

Yeah, Rob.

You know, terrorists fly planes into skyscrapers all the time. Any good manager would have had a contingency plan in place for just that event; why, I bet there was even a designated "terrorist asshole hijacker skyscraper crashing suicide Jihadist" guy right there in the crisis center.

You think there might be a difference between an attack on the country and a line problem in the acid factory? Or is that too 'nuanced' for you?

Posted by: Rick on August 13, 2004 10:11 PM

Good post Rob, too bad some of those who think that Bush reacted too slow or had no plan didn, t have the foresight call ahead and warn him about the impending danger. Instead of building a stronger nation and better defenses they've bled the taxpayer for 70 years to pay for welfare programs and make work government jobs. Instead of being self reliant they rely on the government to do everything for them and whine and snivel if things don't go the way they want. They want the best but are unwilling to make the sacrifices that makre it happen. Nuff said.

Posted by: Jack on August 13, 2004 10:46 PM

Back when I was an E7 platoon sgt I got a call around midnight from one of my E6s squad leader, he and his crew just returned from flying a mission and he asked "what time they should come in tomorrow?"

I told him to look around the hangar, and asked who was the highest ranking person there, "me" he replied. I then told him to "make a gottdamned decision and if I don't like it you'll hear from me on it tomorrow" and I hung up the phone.

I called that mentorship.

Posted by: Sgt Hook on August 13, 2004 10:57 PM

As for management , it's rapidly becoming a lost art. These days you neded a degree, pedigree , some sycophants and a committee to make the decisions.
Like you , my background is industrial, Instrumentation in fact, who do the operators call when the shit hits the fan and the process is out of control and I've been called out directly many times, they don't want to deal with managers, they want decisive action.. I've never had a manager show up during an upset , make a decision, or offer to assist when the chips are down. Sure they'll be there to criticise and critique after the event and point out how costly the loss of production was, on never a thank you if you saved the plant from a catastrophe. The person who assumes the leadership is the one who gets the job done on a day by day basis. The ones that operate and maintain a plant never get enough credit for the role they play in making that "manager" successful.

Posted by: Jack on August 13, 2004 11:00 PM

You call leadership plugging a thumb in your ass for several minutes while reading "Hickory Dickery Doc" to some eight year olds while you're Nation is under attack?

That's what we call a helmet fire. Since when is hesitation a leadership trait?

Posted by: Drumwaster on August 13, 2004 11:31 PM


You dumb ass mother fucker. "Nuanced?" You have so clearly never hired anyone much less managed them it is sad that you even want to post.

Posted by: dbltap on August 13, 2004 11:40 PM

All of the micromanagers I've ever worked for have been liberals/leftists. Coincidence?

Posted by: Juliette on August 14, 2004 12:29 AM

You always make blanket statements Julehole?

What you said has as much credibility as my saying "Every rePUBE I've worked for has been a brownshirt."

Posted by: Drumwaster on August 14, 2004 12:41 AM

He was told to sit there by the Secret Service while they decided on the safest way to get the president out of there. That's the Secret Service's JOB. And unlike in Hollywood (anyone remember "Air Force One"?), a responsible president doesn't override their instructions to try to be a hero.

Posted by: shell on August 14, 2004 09:58 AM

The President is in charge of the Secret Service. He chose to sit there and freeze while Americans died.

Posted by: Drumwaster on August 14, 2004 10:29 AM

And what exactly was the President supposed to do at the time? Don his Superman cape and strike the plane headed for the Pentagon out of the sky, while John Fonda Kerry sat there quivering with that other liberal shit stain Maxine Waters for 47 minutes?

The thing that still amazes me is that liberal assholes still rap Bush for "rushing to war". GMAFB will ya? Bent dick Billy stood idly by while the islamonazis bombed the WTC, Khobar Towers, and the USS Cole, *FOR 8 FUCKING YEARS!!* and did nothing to stem the obvious rising tide of terrorist attacks against us and our interests.

8 years vs. 7 minutes. You do the math. I dare you to come up with a logical retort; the key word here is *logical*.

Posted by: Anthony L. on August 14, 2004 02:51 PM

Why is this not common sense? I knew this as a twenty year old manager with only six employees and as a twenty seven year old team leader of four in Iraq last year. The problem with our liberal "friends" is they NEVER grow up. As soon as they do, they're not liberal any more.

Posted by: matterson on August 14, 2004 08:11 PM

That's not the real Drumwaster. That's his little stalker.

Hey Dipshit - Leaving evidence of your bullshit makes it easy to prove what you are.

(Check out the comments)

Posted by: Raging Dave on August 15, 2004 09:20 AM

Dance, bitch, dance.

Posted by: Raging Dave on August 15, 2004 11:06 AM

Thanks Rob, for the link and comment.

I appreciate Anthony L. and Matterson's comments as well... I was boiling while I was watching Hannity interview this guy, whose name I can't remember, but he's a frequent guest, and he was adamant that the seven minute delay proved the President unfit.

When Hannity countered with Kerry's confession of not having been able to think for over forty minutes following the news, the guy says, "Yeah, but he wasn't the President!"

"Yeah, but he wants to be! By your definition, I believe he failed the entrance exam!" That would have been one of my come-backs, but it wasn't Hannity's. I was disappointed in him that night.

He just took it.

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