Gut Rumbles

July 17, 2004

strange dream

Last night I dreamed that my mama asked me to hold services at her church. She told me that the preacher was sick and they didn't have anybody to fill in for him. She had all her hair in my dream and she appeared to be ten years younger. "You're a good public speaker," she said. "Why don't you do it for me?"

I told her that I couldn't. I couldn't get up behind a pulpit and say things that I don't believe. I couldn't lie to those people. She started crying and I woke up. Mama worries that I'm going to hell for being an athiest.

I don't believe in God. I don't believe in life everlasting, nor do I believe that sinning unbelivers spend eternity burning in hell. I believe that when you die, that's it. It's just like being anesthesized for surgery except you never wake up. You don't dream and your "soul" goes nowhere.

I don't see The Hand Of God working in this world. I believe that life is chaos, then you die. You control a lot of your own destiny by the choices YOU make, but you don't control it all. Sometimes, Shit Just Happens through no fault of your own. That's the chaos part of life.

When a Shit Just Happens moment occurs in life, a lot of people try to explain it by saying, "It's God's will," or "God is testing you." I want to upchuck when I hear that shit. Why the hell would God "test" anybody? If he's omnipotent, he already knows how you'll do on the test. And why would it be "God's will" to give a 13 year-old boy a fatal case of cancer when he let Adolph Hitler live to do what Hitler did?

In MY humble opinion, all religions are the result of superstitious people trying desperaetly to explain the unexplainable in life. If religion makes you feel better, fine. I've got no problem with that. But I look at the sex scandals in the Catholic church and the mad mullahs of Islam, and I ain't real impressed.

There IS no God. Frightened people and people craving power INVENTED him.


"The first clergyman
was the first rascal
who met the first fool."


Posted by: GORDON on July 17, 2004 06:45 PM

This was sent to me.
:Just something to consider:

Barbers Do Not Exist

The Bible states that Christians, as believers, should have an answer for why; and what we believe, for those who ask us. This is a good example of an analogy to one of the most common reasons that unbelievers, skeptics and Atheists give for ignoring God:

A Christian went into his favorite barbershop for his weekly haircut and beard trimming.
In the course of their conversation, the barber and the Christian touched upon the subject of God.
The barber said, "Look man, I don't think that God exists as you believe."
"Why do you think that?" asked the Christian.
"Well, its easy; you only have to go out on the street to realize that God doesn't exist. If God existed, would there be so many sick people? Would there be abused and crippled children? If God existed, there would be no suffering or pain. Would there be murder or even war? I cannot imagine a loving God who would permit any of these things!" said the barber.
The Christian didn't want to enter into an arguement and couldn't think of any immediate response to the barbers logic.
The barber finished his job and the Christian fellow left the shop.
The moment the Christian stepped out the door he saw a man sitting on the curb whose long hair and scraggly beard were in need of attention.
The Christian turned around and reentered the barbershop and said to the barber, "You know what? Barber's absolutely do not exist."
What?" the barber exclaimed. "How can you say that barber's do not exist? I am here, I'm a barber and I just cut your hair!!!"
"No." The Christian said. "Barbers do not exist; because if they did exist there would be no people with long hair and stringy beards like that man sitting on the curb outside your shop."
"Oh, barber's do indeed exist." exclaimed the barber. "First of all, people have to come to me. They have to seek and find me and then I can cut their hair!"
"Your exactly right!" The Christian said. "That's exactly the point. Therefore, God does exist!"

The problem is that people don't go to Him and do not look for Him; instead of trying to search out God, they stick to what they have read, heard or seen instead of genuinely searching out God for themselves. The only way to prove Gods existance is to sincerely seek Him out, otherwise you can never prove He doesn't exist.

Therefore, until you can prove He doesn't exist, He does.

Posted by: Trease on July 17, 2004 06:48 PM

As far as your story goes, well, it's real hard to prove a negative, Trease. Also, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
Lets see some extraordinary proof.

Posted by: Terry Egan on July 17, 2004 07:21 PM


You know chemicals, and cheating wives, and judges who are clueless . . .

But . . .

You really don't know much theology.

Example . . . Your Momma is still alive.

Random chance, ya think?

If this life is "it"--then you are absolutely right. But if there is life beyond this one, then you have a serious problem, logically, and theo (God) -logically.

Someday we can talk. :-)


Posted by: Aw Jeez on July 17, 2004 07:32 PM

"As long as there is poverty there will be gods." --Will Durant

(Time to go Jaco off).

Posted by: Holden Manutz on July 17, 2004 10:15 PM

AMEN Trease &
Terry....Look at a rainbow

Posted by: Lexia on July 17, 2004 10:17 PM

Deep down inside you, in the place God made so that He could dwell within, He is calling you to come to Him, to find rest and peace and Jesus.
You can run, but He's everywhere, and He's tried a lot of ways to get your attention. I Kings 19:11-12.
Don't wait until you're on the other side to find out that you've been wrong. Your momma's right, listen to her.

Posted by: TimeNow on July 17, 2004 11:49 PM

Hey Rob, The Bible says we must all work out our own salvation. I wouldn't tell you how to believe anyway...I do have a thought though, Theres no way you were a random event. Your mind, your spirit, the will to fight... had to be a gift. I mean that.

Posted by: Trease on July 18, 2004 02:14 PM

Intriguing how many true believing Christians frequent this site. Actually not so intriguing after all.

Posted by: bwaha on July 18, 2004 07:17 PM

5681 Thanks so much for all the help to buy ink cartridges

Posted by: ink cartridges on September 5, 2004 06:55 PM

Humanity is at a new threshold, of discovering the present limitations of current religious thought, and demanding a new context in which to relate to the Divine. Even a new definition of God will occur as man evolves can the painting describe the painter? These questions that Rob posts are proof, that intelligent men ask more from metaphysical inquiry than current religions provide. But, the answers are out there - I wish everyone a safe journey.

Posted by: Bonita on April 11, 2005 01:27 PM
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