Gut Rumbles

October 11, 2003

sheer ignorance

Just go read the comments on this post about that terrible Booger-Man, "acid rain." Bejus! The most self-righteous people in the world are the blithering idiots among us.

I live a place with a lot of "black water" creeks running through the woods. Whadda you think makes that water black? It's TANNIC ACID formed by all the leaves that fall from trees and decay in the slow-moving creek. That "polluted" water has a low pH but still makes for some fine bass and bream fishing. Power plants didn't put acid in the water. Mother nature did.

Why do you suppose the Smokey Mountains were called "smokey" long before power plants were built in this country? Why are the Blue Ridge Mountains named for the haze that hangs over them most of the time?


What really chaps my ass now is the fact that the same people who claim to be "protecting" the environment make it too expensive and too time-consuming to build clean power plants today. The idea of nuke plants sends environmentalists into apoplexy and they oppose construction of new gas or coal-fired plants with clean-burn technology; therefore, the old, dirty ones keep operating.

Want to bitch about acid rain? Look in the mirror you environmentalist assholes.


You are an exceptionally stupid man. Why you relish displaying your ignorance with such hostility I do not know. But, please do the rest of us a favor. Don't vote. Ever.

Posted by: Dave on October 11, 2003 09:36 AM

Dave, you twit, the mirror's thataway. This is a blog. Stop talking to yourself, you pile of dumbass.

Posted by: Eichra Oren on October 11, 2003 10:51 AM

Dave, butt out. You are both dead wrong and playing out of your league. The facts are as presented by Acidman.

Reagan was pilloried because of his comment that VOCs (volitile organic chemicals) from trees were a major source of the smog that give the Blue Ridge Mountains their name. The fact that he was right appears to have not been a defense.

Acid, you are on the money. I am a chemist and a working government ecocrat. (Does the term Industrial Pretreatment Program ring a bell?)

Ideological posers like Dave give us rational types a bad name. Morover, responding to their essentially theological arguements both wastes resources and prevents us from dealing with real issues.

Posted by: Jim Gwyn on October 11, 2003 12:24 PM

Jim , you twit, the mirror's thataway. This is a blog. Stop talking to yourself, you pile of dumbass. Mothafucka, asstard, retwit, biteme, cunt.

Posted by: Ocra on October 11, 2003 04:41 PM

I suppose imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, if you're a raging dumbass.

Is that trollshit I smell?

Posted by: Eichra Oren on October 11, 2003 05:30 PM

In September 5, 2003, The Department of Justice (DOJ) filed a brief that redefined "routine maintenance" of industrial facilities, making it easier to upgrade such plants without installing the antipollution technology required under the New Source Review (NSR) portion of the Clean Air Act (CAA).

Oops! you mean it's not the Sierra Club that's preventing corporations from installing anti-pollution technology? Why, the retardos at Gutrumbles are going to shocked, shocked!

Posted by: Troll this shit on October 11, 2003 05:50 PM

I'm no expert but the "sheer ignorance" displayed on this topic is Rob's and his loonie friends. I did a search about acid rain in WV where I live and this is what I found. There is no mention of dead leaves being the cause.
""The overall goal of the Acid Rain Program is to achieve significant environmental and public health benefits through reductions in emissions of sulfur dioxide (SO2) and nitrogen oxides (NOx), the primary causes of acid rain. To achieve this goal at the lowest cost to society, the program employs both traditional and innovative, market-based approaches for controlling air pollution.""

Posted by: Mairee on October 11, 2003 06:02 PM

She may have a point.
Think about it.

Posted by: Jim Thomas on October 11, 2003 09:34 PM

Bullshit. "Black Creek" was named that by the fucking Indians who lived here before the white man came.

If she's got a point, it's on the top of her head and covered with tinfoil.

Posted by: Acidman on October 11, 2003 10:41 PM

"In September 5, 2003"? The EPA just passed this a little over a month ago and you expect the damage done by the Sierra Club and their ilk to just vanish, you fucking brain-dead troll? Grow the FUCK UP! And Mairee, you're right. You're no fucking expert.

Posted by: Raging Dave on October 12, 2003 10:15 AM

Clearly Acidman is not the sharpest tool in the shed, or he's feigning ignorance for entertainment value. Any ignoramus knows the difference between brackish water and the systemic contamination acid rain causes. Maybe Acidman has been injesting too much acidified hootch to function with the minimal IQ points he started out with. Otherwise how can one explain the misinformation he puts out here, and the defiant, hostile and supercillious way he does it? I know, I know, asshat, fucktard, liberal weenies....

Posted by: Jonah on October 12, 2003 11:19 AM

Mairee: He didn't say that dead leaves caused "acid rain".

As Jim said ,regarding the Smokies, "The Smokies were named for a bluishhaze that often shrouds the slopes. Thishaze was actually very moist air combinedwith naturally occurring hydrocarbons pro-duced by trees." ( ... There's manmade pollution on top of the existing haze, of course, these days... much of it due to coal power plants. Just as Rob said.

The rest of the comments you take offense to are in response to the other threat he mentioned... and make plenty of sense in context. "Acid rain" is a problem to the extent it isa problem (ie, far less than any time in the past fifty-plus years, hmm?) because of outdated technology that's still in use because of eco-weenies (not conservationists or proper environmentalists who use risk and cost analysis rather than dogma and cant)... and when the Government decides to make it easier to clean up existing power plants, they're "destroying the environment". What a wonderful political discourse we have, huh? But I digress.

Posted by: Sigivald on October 13, 2003 05:29 PM

I really, really can't believe we're back to this topic when it was proven a number of years ago, beyond a doubt, that all North American rivers and streams were MORE ACID in their pristine state than at any time since! When, oh when will envirofascists learn to read?

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