Gut Rumbles

July 27, 2003

fair question

I was asked this question in my comments:

I'm curious - you say Sugarmama (28?) is too young for you - what age range do you find attractive?

I like wimmen with lines around their eyes who still laugh at my jokes. I believe that wimmen in their 40s are amazingly sexy. I like seasoned wimmen who know that they are not as buff as Angelina Jolie and still like to make love with the lights on. I like women who know who they are.

I would LOVE to buy Sugarmama dinner sometime. I simply want to put a face with a name I've known for a long time. I have no intention of ever even TRYING to get in her pants. She may not believe that, but it's the truth.

If I want to sport with a 28 year-old, I'll rent one, have my pleasure, give her a nice tip and send her away. I can't deal with those younguns for more than an hour or so. I have nothing in common with them.

But if you are a 40-something woman who reads books, maybe writes a blog and likes silver-haired men, you and I can spend time together. We've got lots to talk about. Hell, we might even have really good sex. I DO have a bionic dick, after all.

But I would rather just buy you a nice dinner and enjoy your company. If sex happens, that's fine. If it doesn't, that's fine, too. I just bought the bionic dick so that if sex ever DID HAPPEN I would be ready for it.

I like wimmen. Hell, I LOVE wimmen. But nowdays I like 'em much older than 28. I see true beauty in a woman with a few years on her. They just look so... WOMANLY! They hit their peak of sensuality at around 45. They know what they want by then, the kids are almost grown and they're ready to enjoy good meals and good wine after years of Hamburger Helper and Spagettioos.

That's MY humble opinion.


Acidman, I feel the same way. When I was 20 years younger, I wanted women in their 40s or even a bit older. Think Raquel Welch, Think Sophia Loren. Angie Dickinson. Hell, these ladies are still hot.

Posted by: Bill Dennis on July 27, 2003 05:42 PM

Oh. My. God.

You mean to tell me that there really IS life after Spaghetti-O's? Are you serious? Don't toy with my emotions!

Posted by: Chablis on July 27, 2003 06:29 PM

Holy Moses! There ARE some good ones left out there! You took my breath!

Posted by: Ruby on July 27, 2003 06:41 PM

feel the same way acidman. I'm 52, and while it's nice to look at some of the younguns, they don't have the fire in their eyes, they don't have a way of walking that can be meltingly sexy...not that all women over 40 do either. But there's one woman I've known since she was 28, and she's sexier now, after two kids, and after 50. Her eyes are like no one else's and she can utterly captivate you with her laugh. And she can talk about things. Sorry youngsters, but you just don't know as much at 25 as you will 25 years later, and being able to converse is part and parcel of attraction...well for me it is. Boring me with inane chatter...just don't have the time for it anymore.
Funny thing...when I was 40, I felt like I was invisible to women, utterly and completely invisible (unless I waved a thick wad of 100 dollar bills)...after 45 I started noticing that I had become visible women over 45, widows maybem divorcees...these are women who want a man, and are smart enough to be able to check you out and see if you fit...are you dressed well, groomed, do you have don't have to look like some stud, just look like you have a good job, and are polite and reasonably intelligent, and're visible again...
all this crap about older men wanting much younger women...they're idiots. Older women have far more in common with you, they're sexier, and they're better in bed, and they're old enough to have gotten an education when you still learned something, when reading meant reading the good writers, not the PC fuckall crap that they read now.
yeah...older women, are absolutely right.

Posted by: kevin on July 27, 2003 06:41 PM

And I'm 49 and haven't even begun to peak yet - I'm waiting for the man who's man enough to help me get there..

Posted by: Ruby on July 27, 2003 06:53 PM

Well, of course! Next time I am in Savannah, I will meet you for dinner! And no, I wouldn't expect anything from you beyond flirting. It's healthy for you not to date 28 year olds, just like it's healthy for me not to want to date men who are significantly older than me. I have a great father, I don't need a replacement. People who are nearer to each other in age have more in common, and thus it makes sense that they would enjoy each other's company.

And I agree with you about aging -- at least this far along, I've become a better woman as I have grown older. May the best years lie ahead. :-)

Posted by: sugarmama on July 27, 2003 07:10 PM

when I was a youngster, my 20s, I worked at Burroughs in San Diego, at their microelectronics plant...the plant mainframes were maintained by two women, friday afternoons, the plant intranet was usually filled with sexual challenges, competitions for dirty limericks, it was lots of fun. Especially the challenges.
At 52, the whole idea of challenges just seems, well, silly.
Raised 2 kids, spent 4 years in the marines in the late 60s...challenges?...been there, done that, rode across Utah in high heat on a kawasaki ninja at 130. don't go out yelling...I want a man who's man enough, etc etc...that's how women end up in trailer parks at 40, with a black eye...they got a "man" who's "man enough".
and you're either there or you're not, and he ain't going to help you get there. That's what makes an older woman sexy...she's there, she's sexy, and she's happy when a good man recognizes it, and he's happy that she thinks he's a good man.

Posted by: kevin on July 27, 2003 07:11 PM

Finally you say something about women I agree with. You left out an important piece though..women in their 40's like alot less drama.

Posted by: Dawn on July 27, 2003 07:24 PM


actually, I think women in their 40s are MORE drama!....that's what makes it great. They have more material to work with. More assholes, true assholes to have worked with, and they have men who have worked with some truly scary bitches. Men (boys) in their 20s just haven't a clue...they want pussy, they just look past all the crap, never notice it. If a man survives to be 50, he does the cost-benefit analysis in nanoseconds...mmmm, that looks good...oh, yeah, I can see myself under the highway overpass living out of a shopping cart...guess I'll pass.
Women in their 20s act as if they have more drama, but they don't. They have their youth, and mostly thats it. Women in their 40s and older have their actual lives, and that's drama...and that's what gives them their character, that's what can light the fire in their eyes, can have God smiling in the curve of their smiles.
and besides...I just think older women have a better sense of style, wear their clothes better, look better in heels...sigh...

Posted by: kevin on July 27, 2003 07:39 PM

Kevin - you misunderstand me. There's no danger of my becoming trailer trash. What I meant to say is that I haven't met a man yet that could keep up--and I had a younger boyfriend, too. No, the man that sees me to my "peak" so to speak will be one of integrity and wisdom, first and foremost. And with a wicked twinkle in his eye.....

Posted by: Ruby on July 27, 2003 08:10 PM

That's okay, she's not too young for me! ;)

Posted by: Mr. Lion on July 27, 2003 08:17 PM

A wicked twinkle...well, maybe...more like a sardonic smile.
keep up with what?...the sex?...
integrity and wisdom...when i was a kid, about 16 or best friend's father worked two jobs to feed a family of 10...the second job was a bar across the street from their was a good neighborhood bar, quiet, shuffleboard....leon and I would sit in there at night and talk to his dad (my father had died a couple of years earlier) night his dad asked me, why is youth wasted on the young...and me, in probably the only time in my life when I was prfoound, responded, why is wisdom wasted on the old?
A wicked twinkle...yeah our age what you really need is someone who wants to make love with you no matter what time of the day...someone who is going through catalogs looking for something that he thinks you would look good in and that would turn him on (no skank clothes, please, just good sexy clothes)...something that he truly thinks you would look good want someone who thinks about that.., and that he would love to with you in at some fancy restaurant, .you want someone who can cook...who can appreciate if you want someone who is simply wildly escatatic when he sees you in heels, stockings, a black evening number, who wants to dance with you, hold you close, sit at the table afterwards, his head next to yours, touching your forehead, close, whispering to you, locked into your eyes, and smiling.
you want someone with you, that the kids come up to you, and apologize for telling you that the place is closing....that they're sorry to interrupt the two of you.
thats what you want....fuck the wicked want a man who just is overwhelmed to be with you, is happy to be with you...who feels more comfortable with you than he has ever felt before.
fuck the wicked twinkle, and anyway, what does it mean?

Posted by: kevin on July 27, 2003 08:31 PM

Well, I have to put in my 2cents. I am 53 yrs old, done with menopause, have two daughters, 24 + 8 yrs, two grandsons, and can still pass for no more than 41 on a bad day.

I feel sexy, look sexy, and after talking with my doctor, he said...go with the flow (no pun intended).

I go to the gym six days a week, primarily to keep my legs and arms in shape, but like my hips and abs (stomach area) like they are. I think a woman should have a softness about her, curves.

I woke up on my 53rd birthday (four months ago) and said forget getting old, lost 20 lbs, went from a frump (size 12) to a nice neat size 5.

Like Ruby said about peaking, I am just starting to come into my own...and I feel absolutely great.

And yes, I love it when I have men look me in the eye...I look right back, put a little smile on my face, and walk right on by '-)

Posted by: Laura on July 27, 2003 08:39 PM

for ruby,

one last thought...what I like is to hear a woman tell me stories, describe her day with humor and depth...for me i think the sex is better, more intense, when you know the woman just as intensely...when you know her moods...hell...sometimes for a guy its as simple as just keeping track on a calendar...
( don't want to hear that...but think about it a bit...think about a man who would keep track on a calendar and would be flexible)...

Posted by: kevin on July 27, 2003 08:44 PM

Damn, Rob. That's the most intelligent thing I've read all day. I've always thought that the whole "aging ruins women" thing was a myth, and the older I get, the more I'm convinced I'm right. Hell, I looked good at 25...but I'd've bored the piss out of a grownup. Now that I'm ten years older, I look better - realer - and I know my way around thangz.

I expect to be a full-fledged goddess by 45. :D

Posted by: kelley on July 27, 2003 09:22 PM

Now that was a refreshing eye opener... I have to say that I am impressed with this post...and not just a little.

Posted by: Flo on July 27, 2003 09:38 PM

I'm forty four and meet all your requirements except one...(two if you count red toenails)
doesn't matter though, your way out of my league..I have some suggestions of who I'd pick for you besides me though..I'll keep it to myself till I find out if she's married. : )

Posted by: Trease on July 27, 2003 11:24 PM

Young women are uninteresting.

Give me an old broad (42+) any day of the week.

The Mrs. may need a year or two to get there, though...

Posted by: Kim du Toit on July 28, 2003 12:34 AM

I couldn't agree more.

I became bored with dating women in my own age group by the time I hit twenty; I just didn't find them all that interesting (probably due to the fact that my parents were absolutely ancient, so I tended to hang around with an older crowd).

When my ex and I started seeing each other, I was 22, and she was 45. We were together for two and a half years, and everything was great (well, until menopause started to set in; hence why she's my ex now, I suppose).

I'm 25 now, but I still don't tend to date anyone (unless she's truly exceptional, which happens once in a blue Moon) that isn't at least ten years older than me.

It just seems healthier, somehow...

Posted by: Paul Jané on July 28, 2003 01:55 AM

Gosh it's nice to see real wimmen appreciated instead of those "sweet young things" you see patrolling in packs at the mall or in some meat market bar.

Sorta makes me feel all warm and tinglie.

Posted by: mamamontezz on July 28, 2003 08:04 AM

When my dear departed died at 63, she was still short of her peak. I'm not exaggerating. She got hotter every year of our 25 together.

Posted by: Larry on July 28, 2003 10:08 AM

The best solution against abortions is education, not snipers.

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