Gut Rumbles

May 30, 2003

makes sense to me

I totally agree with right wing news with this take on Saddam's Weapons of Mass Destruction.

I Still Expect To Find WMD In Iraq: I have to admit that I was surprised that we didn't almost immediately find with Weapons of Mass Destruction after we took Iraq. After all, you don't refuse to tell how you destroyed your WMD, have thousands of chem protection suits made for your soldiers, refuse to cooperate with inspectors, build rockets that can carry WMD, keep your scientists from talking to inspectors, have bioweapon labs made, & take tens of billions of dollars in sanctions losses if you don't have a WMD program. Hell, the inspectors even found a previously disclosed artillery shell filled with mustard gas that the Iraqis hadn't destroyed well before the war started. So given all that, it's hard to come up with a scenario that would explain why all those things were going on if Saddam didn't have WMD.

I believe that they are in Iraq, just well-hidden. Iraq is a big country with a lot of good hiding places for things that don't require a lot of room to hide. We'll stumble across them, eventually.

That's why I would be very hesitant to jump on the leftist bandwagon and decry the war as absolute bullshit right now. If we bring peace and freedom to Iraq, you'll look like a goddamned idiot in 2004 for taking that stance. If we bring peace and freedom to Iraq and also find weapons of mass destruction, you'll look like ten times an idiot.

The "truth" is not what the New York Times decides to print (or not to print) anymore. This is the era of the Internet, and what you do now can be Googled up to haunt you later. I would be very careful about what I said, if I were one of those envy-driven, power-hungry Democrats jockying for position right now.

You people are setting yourself up for a Scarlet Letter ("A" for asshole) if things don't play out exactly your way. I would be respectful of the consequences of being wrong.

But that's just MY humble opinion.


i dont think being concerned there havent been any wmds found in iraq means anyone is jumping on the "leftist bandwagon".

i think it is a legitimate concern for those of us on the right who remember bush and powell quite clearly telling us, the united nations and the whole world that saddam had em, we knew for a fact he had em, we knew where they were AND if we didnt go in there RIGHT FUCKING NOW (ok, maybe he didnt say "fucking") then he was gonna use em on us sometime in the next year.

i dont think bush lied to us. there was a very thoughtful piece by john derbyshire in national review online in which he posited that it is entirely likely saddam thought he had the damn things and actually didnt, instead being fooled by his own advisors...then we got fooled by them too. either way, if we dont find wmds, it is gonna put a HUGE dent in bush's credibility and THAT concerns me to no end...especially since we are now making noises in Iran's direction.

i will happily eat every word if we find them.

Posted by: mr. helpful on May 30, 2003 10:50 PM

I still think it's possible that Saddam thought he had WMD programs because his underlings gave him false reports on how things were supposedly going (meanwhile spending the money themselves or funneling it elsewhere). Not my idea, and I can't remember where I first read that suggestion, but remembering things I'd read about other dictatorships (and even the Soviet government), it rang true for some reason. It's always possible that I've read too much Tom Clancy, however.

Posted by: Steve Gigl on May 31, 2003 12:51 AM

I still believe he had them. Underlings may have blown smoke up his ass about how many and how lethal they were, but... what the hell.

I believe that Bush can escape that credibility gap if we DON'T find any WMDs more easily than anti-war Democrats can if we so.

Posted by: Acidman on May 31, 2003 05:19 AM

I'd have to say the only way I'd ever be convinced he didn't have 'em would be if Bush or Powell went before Congress and confessed, "He didn't have 'em," and faced the music. And that would probably make Bush's numbers go up again anyway.

I think a bunch of 'em are still in Iraq and just haven't been found. Heck, they haven't found any of the paste our bombs must have turned Saddam into, either, but we know it must be there.

And if it isn't there, it means he got out, so why couldn't he have taken at least some of the WMDs with him?

Posted by: McGehee on May 31, 2003 07:27 AM

Dude told Tony Snow on Fox last night all the WMD were in a little town in Syria, just across the border. He said massive shipments were observed by.....I don't remember. (Gimme a break. I'm old.)

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