Gut Rumbles

May 11, 2003

gun dumb

I really don't know what to make of this story, but I know damned well that the nutball was NOT carrying a "machine gun." I want to know about the "high-powered rifle," too.

Shots were heard intermittently until at least 5:30 p.m. About four hours after the shooting began, rescuers began taking people out of the building. They were being reunited with family members waiting at a nearby campus auditorium.

FOUR FUCKING HOURS??? The SWAT team waited THAT LONG to do a goddam thing? Man, just call the guy a dope dealer and watch them kick his front door down and charge in like the horsemen of the Apocalypse, whether they have the right house or not. WTF is with these people?

Oh, yeah. When it is a citizen in his home, minding his own business, the troops attack without mercy. Show them a killer with a gun in a fucking school and they need to think A LONG TIME about what to do.

Bejus! Those guys aren't meant to protect citizens from bad guys. They are meant to INTIMIDATE law-abiding people who don't shoot back at them.

SWAT, my ass.


God forbid any of the people in that building might have had their own firearm to protect themselves and others. Four hours to even begin evacuating people is ridiculous.

Call for the police, an ambulance and a pizza. See who gets there first.

Posted by: Gene K on May 11, 2003 09:45 AM

Go read Volokh Conspiracy comments on this guy. Also, see Little Green Footballs. The "distraught student" with the lawsuit has quite the interesting background.

It just never seems to stop.

Posted by: Kathy on May 11, 2003 01:10 PM

Media ignorance of firearms is of no surprise to me.

Kim DuToit recently featured an article from the UK, where a 9mm Glock was described as "...a very powerful gun used by the police"

Posted by: Ravenwood on May 11, 2003 04:28 PM

I think that the police generally take things nice and slowly/carefully when there are potential hostages involved. So you're absolutely right - they think A LONG TIME about what to do when you've got some nut letting off rounds inside a school.

On the other hand, when you've got some dope-dealing scumbag at home, asleep, things are a lot simpler. Kick the door down and bust a cap in his ass! :-)

I think you guys (Americans) are often wrong on the whole right to bear arms thing.

Posted by: Jack on May 12, 2003 04:16 AM

Lots of conflicting news stories. At the time of the standoff, one local news puppet head was referring to a semi-automatic machine gun, later, others, an automatic rifle. Now, two semi-automatic handguns have been shown on the news. He was, apparently, an "anti-war activist," though he sported military garb to terrorize innocents he stalked. The Million Mommies have come out to further muddy the waters on the story.

Posted by: Mark on May 12, 2003 06:12 AM

"semi-automatic machine gun"? Isn't that a contradiction in terms? Dumb newsies. I'd guess that the appropriate word would have been "carbine" (if it hadn't turned out to be a pair of pistols).

Posted by: Jack on May 12, 2003 07:42 AM


I'm not about to live in a country where only the government is allowed to have guns. Governments have killed more people than all the school shootings combined.

Posted by: Ravenwood on May 12, 2003 05:03 PM

Ravenwood, Your choice.

I'm actually thinking about asking to be transferred to NYC. And, on the basis of "When in Rome...", d'ya think I'll be able to get myself a gun for self-defence?

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