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August 12, 2005

the woman is a fool

I hate to say that about her, because I've seen too much death around me lately. But this woman is a fool. Grief is one thing. But making yourself some kind of martyr over it is ghoulish.

I remember two of the most difficult days of my life. The first was my father's funeral and the second was my mama's. That included all the "visitation" and crap that went along with them.

I grieved. I was heartbroken. I hurt from the depths of my soul. But I made up my mind that I would not cry, I would not display my grief and I would be as stoic as possible both times. I managed to do it. I cried later, but I did that by myself.

Of course, both of my parents died of cancer, so I couldn't point an accusing finger at the President for "killing" them, but I personally think that this woman needs to shut the fuck up and go back home. Grieve with some dignity, for crying out loud.

Bush did not kill her son. Her boy enlisted in the military and he knew the job was dangerous when he took it. But he did that of his own free will. He drew a bad hand in life's poker game.

Should the US military be in Iraq? I think so, because I've always believed in taking the fight to the enemy before he brings it to you. And anybody who says that Saddam Hussein wasn't a threat to the US is full of shit. Saddam Hussein was a threat to the WORLD.

Plus, we NEED a military presence in that festering pus-boil of the Middle East. (If you can't see that, you ain't much of a chess player.) Mutant Islamists hate our guts, they hated us BEFORE we invaded Iraq and they would come HERE to kill us if they could. (Hell--- they already have) I'd rather have well-armed, well-trained troops fighting them THERE than have them killing innocent civilians HERE.

I'm sorry that the woman lost her son. But pitching this kind of hissy-fit won't bring him back. What does she want? NO MORE WAR!!! EVER!!! Sorry, but I believe that some things are worth fighting for. Iraq is one of them.

Go home and shut up, woman.

(UPDATE: I deleted all of PJ's idiotic comments, just as I will continue to do every time that bastard shows up here. I can put up with a few fools, but PJ is a true asshole.)

Comments

Now we know that this woman is a tool of Move on.org, and has been in one of their slimey ad's before. She is not grieving for her son, she is stroking her own ego. Like some of the so called 9-11 widows that turned grief into greed in less than 30 days.
As far as being in Iraq I can't see how the moonbats have convinced a lot of Americans that a man who killed 60,000 + of his own people yearly (every year he held power) should be allowed to live. If todays moonbats had been around in the 40's we'd all know how to say 'yes sir master' in Japanese.
If the facts pan out that have been discovered in the past couple of days we will also know that Saddam not only financed the attack on 9-11, but gave the attack order to Atta in Prague (the meeting that the 9-11 comission said didn't happen), but we now know did happen. And now the 9-11 comission has proven to be nothing but a bunch of back slappers (self) that submitted a totally false report. Sure glad I copied what I wanted from the web site and didn't waste good money on their book of fantasy.

Posted by: scrapiron on August 12, 2005 09:24 PM

The woman is not there to ask our CINC and President why he killed her son so much as to accuse him of killing her son and promote her personal moonbat agenda.

It's a volunteer force and her son reenlisted KNOWING he would tour again in Iraq. He knew the score and from all appeareances took great pride in serving our great Nation.

It's a shame this cunt tarnishes her own son's memory and sacrifice to promote her politics.

Posted by: gordon the magnificent on August 12, 2005 09:36 PM

Meant to share this link. Exploiting the dead.

Posted by: gordon the magnificent on August 12, 2005 09:38 PM

My husband and I have beeb watching the World War II series on the History channel and tonights episode was the surrender of Japan. We talked about this woman and how embarrasing it is as American's that there are people who behave like this. I can't imagine the WW II generation behaving in this manner. There is a family in our town that had 5 sons in WW II and they were PROUD of it.

Posted by: Kim on August 12, 2005 09:45 PM

It strikes me as ironic that this woman would not be able to protest as she has if she lived in Iraq under Hussein's regime. Her son died to preserve the United States and its way of life, and part of that way of life is the right to speak out. I cut her a little slack because the child she carried inside her body is no longer on this planet, and I know I would lose my mind, too, if such a thing ever happened to me. Her son was a fine young man, so she must have been a good mom. Right now she just wants someone to blame, but as time passes she will come to realize her son was an adult, made his own decision to enter battle, and served his country honorably.

Posted by: Renee on August 12, 2005 10:17 PM

She is being pimped HARD by the left and the MSM.

I dare say her son (who VOLUNTEERED to go BACK to Iraq after his first tour) would be ashamed of her.

Posted by: rightisright on August 12, 2005 10:24 PM

Give her a little credit. she is suceeding at one thing, making the left look even more moronic.

Posted by: Jeremy on August 12, 2005 10:55 PM

You want to share with us how Saddam was a threat to us? Bush hasn't been able to do it.

Saddam was a neutered little bitch in the sand that wasn't even a threat to his neighbors.

Posted by: The Other Mike S on August 12, 2005 11:12 PM

"Give her a little credit. she is suceeding at one thing, making the left look even more moronic".

concur, although if they digress any furthur they will no longer be morons and just idiots.

Posted by: GUYK on August 12, 2005 11:13 PM
You want to share with us how Saddam was a threat to us? Bush hasn't been able to do it.

Saddam was a neutered little bitch in the sand that wasn't even a threat to his neighbors.

Is this stupidity, ignorance, or dishonesty?

Posted by: Scott Crawford on August 12, 2005 11:17 PM

I enlisted at 17 in the Army, knowing full well I might be sent to 'Nam.
And outta AIT I requested it, altho being MI I would have done Saigon.
They OK'd it then changed at the last minute to Frankfurt, they decided to wind things down.
I volunteered, knew what might happen, and my Momma did too.
Wouldn't have been any of this idiocy had I got grenaded in a bus. We all knew what I was doing, with eyes wide open.
Screw this hosebag.
Her son would frag her prolly if he knew.
Thatisall.

Posted by: Horrabin on August 12, 2005 11:41 PM

Scott, you want to stop with the platitudes and come up with some facts? Or is it just easier to go along with the party line?

Posted by: The Other Mike S on August 13, 2005 12:32 AM

Give her a little credit. she is suceeding at one thing, making the left look even more moronic.>

She's picking up where Dean left off.

Saddam was a neutered little bitch in the sand that wasn't even a threat to his neighbors.

He was neutralized one can argue, but not a threat? Got to disagree. Any country that has the sack to openly fire SAMS and AFF at American and Allied aircraft enforcing a no fly zone on a regular basis poses a threat. Not just to the aircrews manning those aircraft but to the extremists who watched and saw that America could be pushed.

9/11 was a direct result of our apethetic and weak stands overseas during the Clinton years.

As for not posing a threat to his neighbors, that's foolish considering his past actions and the militiary presence he still maintained even after the war. History repeats itself.

Posted by: gordon the magnificent on August 13, 2005 12:34 AM

Rob, "Wet cleanup on aisle 13!"

Somebody spilled some bullshit named Mike S.

Posted by: Bane on August 13, 2005 12:38 AM

Gordon, he posed no threat to the US. You really can't be saying that by firing on our aircraft in the no fly zone, we were justified in sending a couple of hundred thousand troops, are you?

Bush Sr. took care of him in regards to his neighbors. He had less than a third of his weapons left after Gulf War I.

But I'm right in stride with you concerning Clinton and 9/11. No one is more responsible than he for what happened to us from bin Laden and Al Qaeda. No one.

But that's irrelevant to this post. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. They posed no threat to the US. Unlike Afghanistan (sp) who was hiding and supporting bin Laden.

Bane, see my earlier comment about platitudes. Look the word up, stop with the bullshit cute comments and provide some facts if you're able. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Posted by: The Other Mike S on August 13, 2005 01:16 AM

How can anyone criticize the behavior of a mother who lost a son? Anything she has to do to help her resolve her grief should not be criticized......How sad and horrible would it be to lose a child?

Those who agree with Mr. Dad, aka Acidman are assholes......

Posted by: dorothy on August 13, 2005 01:20 AM

funny....today even her family said what she was doing is wrong...and they know her better than us

Posted by: Scott on August 13, 2005 01:29 AM

Also, our parents are supposed to die before we do, our children are not.

How can you possibly compare the death of your parents to the death of a child??????

You are too moronic to even read anymore....

AMF.........

Posted by: dorothy on August 13, 2005 01:37 AM

How can anyone criticize the behavior of a mother who lost a son?

Apparently several million Americans that see it for what it is - a mother USING her son's death to promote her political agenda.

It's called political whoring.


Other Mike,
I hear what your saying, but staunchly disagree. I'm too tired and had one to many drinks to debate this worthwhile. I'll catch up tommorow.

Posted by: gordon the magnificent on August 13, 2005 01:57 AM

Hey Mike S. The whole 9/11 commision findings were a shame to protect the Clinton legacy and bash Bush. The information coming out now about Atta meeting Iraqi agents in Prague is true. The main stream media is ignoring this story and covering the moonbat in the ditch in Crawford. Iraq helped finance the 9/11 hijackings.

Posted by: Dan on August 13, 2005 03:15 AM

Good, Dorothy. Please go away, asshole.

Posted by: Acidman on August 13, 2005 08:41 AM

I'm not gonna jump into this cesspool of a comment thread...wait, well maybe I will...except to say that Horribin is my new hero.

/that is all

Posted by: marcl on August 13, 2005 09:11 AM

I'm no leftie but I gotta say the most significant thing about this woman is she is saying what lots of people in America think, even if they don't say it.

Bush says, " I grieve" over every serviceman's death.

Now I know that's bullshit. Bush pretty much doesn't give a shit about our boys, or about Iraq--except that he wants to win. Whatever that means.

Sure Cindy what'shername is being used by the liberals, but she's also being used by the wingnut cable tv and radio guys. And, by you, to bash their political opponents.

It's time to wrap up the fiasco in Iraq and admit it was a big mistake to try to occupy a country that doesn't want us. Let them sort out what kind of country to have.

Posted by: Pig Meat on August 13, 2005 09:20 AM

"But that's not how this country should work."

..let alone how it was built to begin with.

Posted by: marcl on August 13, 2005 10:13 AM

Pig Shit doesn't understand the burden of command.

Posted by: gordon the magnificent on August 13, 2005 11:02 AM

Grief doesn't make anyone right.

She chose to make her views public, so debating her position is perfectly legitimate.

What is it with people who raise debatable issues who then find it intolerably insulting that anyone would disagree with them?

We need something analogous to Godwin's law for this situation. I propose Brett's law:
Anecdotes of personal tragedy have no place in a discussion of general principles; the first person to do so loses the argument and the thread ends.

Posted by: Brett on August 13, 2005 11:03 AM

Is it just me or is that Chablis totally without empathy and intelligence? She hangs out on Rob's site clogging bandwith--HIS bandwidth telling folks she disagrees with to Shut The Fuck UP.

When does she have time to do her church work?

Posted by: Ellen on August 13, 2005 12:28 PM

What no one seems to understand about Casey Sheehan is he was a humvee machanic. He was not a forward operating combat soldier. His buddies in got ambushed in some town, I think it was Mosul but I'm not positive. When the commanding officer came and asked for volunteers to go get them he volunteered again. He went to go get his frieds out of an ambush. That is when he was killed. That is a true hero. His mother is turning his heroism into a mockery.

She needs to sit down and shut the fuck up.

Posted by: gravdigr on August 13, 2005 01:53 PM

Lincoln used to hold a weekly audience to meet with citizens -- war widows / grieving mothers included. I wonder how many Cindys he had to endure. I would argue that there was a much larger percentage of mothers then who believed ending slavery in the US was not worth the sacrifice than there are mothers now who believe the propoganda this woman is spewing.

Posted by: Seppo on August 13, 2005 03:43 PM

That's the sad part to me, Seppo. This guy wasn't even a combat infantryman, but he VOLUNTEERED to go rescue his buddies. Now, his mama is exploiting his death for a political agenda.

That's pure-assed pathetic to me. My mama would have grieved for me, but she never would have shown her ass like that.

Posted by: Acidman on August 13, 2005 07:17 PM

This war in Iraq is over. It's just nobody told Bush yet.

Oh yeah. We lost. They'll be months and months of
jabbering about how we gotta have peace with honor, but this motherfucker is over.

Posted by: Anonymous on August 14, 2005 01:37 AM


"My mama would have grieved for me, but she never would have shown her ass like that."
-Acidman

You would have to have the balls to serve your country in war before she could ever grieve for you, so that is a mute point you yellowbelly chickenhawk.

PJ

Posted by: PJ on August 15, 2005 03:29 AM
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