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I discovered the blogosphere after the Trent Lott – Strom Thurmond controversy. The continued clamor over the comments among bloggers while the mainstream media largely ignored the story affected real change in American politics. You have the opportunity again to affect the national political conversation by forcing one question.

By now, some of you may have read about Sen. John Kerry’s supposed support among veterans. You may also have learned about his testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations committee in a hearing on April 23, 1972. Having recently become active with the group Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Kerry testified that U.S. servicemen had "personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam."

To many Vietnam veterans, including my father, this is a particularly dear issue. When they returned from the horrors of war, they were appalled that one of their own would make such a damning claim against them as a group. When they needed support and a welcome home so desperately, people like John Kerry were feeding the nation a vision of them as evil war criminals with no sense of decency or humanity.

He and his campaign have refused to directly answer any questions regarding this issue. The simple question is whether he stands by those comments today.

The mainstream media are not asking that question, much like they were not asking another simple question to Trent Lott. The blogosphere changed that. I am writing to ask you to make it happen again. As we are all too familiar with, they watch our posts and they look for scoops from us. Clearly, your influence and ability to change the tone and sometimes the subject of the conversation in the mainstream media is there. I hope that you can make it happen again.

To date, I have found the following mentions of it in the mainstream press. Links and other original documents follow.

On Fox News, Linda Vester asked Jeanne Shaheen, national chair of the Kerry campaign, whether Senator Kerry had really meant that about his fellow soldiers. She dodged the question. From the article on Fox News’s website:

When asked about whether Sen. Kerry really meant that about his fellow soldiers, Jeanne Shaheen’s response focused more on the fact that John Kerry is a veteran himself, and he supports veterans and the military. Jeanne added that Kerry believes soldiers should be supported not just on the battlefield, but when they come back with veteran benefits … something Kerry believes President Bush has not done.

When I asked specifically why this information is being circulated heavy on the Web by a group of veterans who are saying that John Kerry is not the man he says he is, Jeanne answered with a comment about Republicans and how they have already started badmouthing Kerry. Jeanne went on to add that Kerry has done many significant things for veterans and is supported by specific veteran’s groups.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,109656,00.html

On the January 31 edition of CNN’s Capital Gang, Kate O’Beirne broaches the subject only to be dismissed and shouted down in a few instances. Below is from the transcript:

O'BEIRNE: Well, I think there's a -- there is a vulnerability in John Kerry's other Vietnam war record. His first Vietnam war record, of course, he deserves great credit for. I admire it. He volunteered for service in Vietnam. It took courage. When he came back, of course, he joined Vietnam Vets Against the War, which, frankly, took less courage, given that he was looking to run in a liberal district for Congress. But in protesting the war -- and he had every right to, and he had earned the right to -- he slandered his fellow Vietnam vets.

If you look at his Senate testimony in 1971, he said, not on an isolated basis, but widespread war crimes, daily basis, officers up and down the chain of command aware of it. Now, either he doesn't know about the reality of combat because that was, frankly, not true, even though he fought there. Secondly, he was willing to slander the majority of Vietnam vets, who, of course, served honorably and decently, as cheap political theater for his own career. I think that second Vietnam war record is a real problem.

SHIELDS: So who's right, Bob Novak or Kate O'Beirne?

HUNT: Chuck Hagel, Republican, Vietnam veteran from Nebraska, said that is -- that is a dog that won't hunt. That is a flimsy thing to say. This man earned the right to say what he wanted to say over there. And any -- I would love some Republican try to say that John Kerry didn't understand combat. Is George Bush going to say that? Is Dick Cheney going to say that? Who's going to make that argument? That's a wonderful issue.

I think there are issues Republicans have against John Kerry -- you know, liberal voting record, you know, maybe tax-and-spend, maybe not a very effective senator. But boy, if they try to play the national security card against a guy like that, who brings -- not only was he a war hero, but a lot of the guys who served with him travel with him. And that's going to be a tough one, Kate.

O'BEIRNE: The public does not agree with him! They do not believe the majority of people who served in Vietnam committed war crimes!

HUNT: John Kerry doesn't, either.

O'BEIRNE: That's just what he said!

HUNT: No. No, he did not.

O'BEIRNE: He did!

HUNT: That's a distortion. That is a...

(CROSSTALK)

SHIELDS: Margaret! Margaret!

CARLSON: Listen, Kerry was courageous to go when people in his station didn't have to go and got out of it. And he was...

NOVAK: His station?

CARLSON: His -- his college -- college kids did not go to Vietnam willingly, Bob. And he was wise to criticize it when he came back, based on what he saw when he was there. The White House will attach the word "Massachusetts" to his name every time it's said, but he's not a typical Dukakis Massachusetts liberal. And Governor Bill Weld found out when he ran against him and lost in the end because Kerry came back at him as hard as he could, and he won the debates in the end, and he won the election.

NOVAK: All I was trying to say is that I do believe he has a bad national security record. But I say that he is hard for the Republicans to get at.

SHIELDS: Let me just follow up on what Bob Novak said. If I were John Kerry (UNINTELLIGIBLE) on Tuesday night, after he does win Oklahoma, say, I want to say to those brave young Americans who are standing watch tonight in South Korea and the Persian Gulf and the Balkans, I, too, was a volunteer. I know what it's like to be a volunteer. If I'm president of the United States, you will always have a brother in your office. You're my brothers and sisters because you are volunteers.

O'BEIRNE: Mark, he ought to apologize for smearing volunteers in 1971!

(CROSSTALK)

NOVAK: See, the problem -- the problem is one of -- one of -- one of George Bush's supporters told me off the record -- I mean, not for quotation -- that the problem that the president has is he was drinking beer in Alabama when this guy was -- was fighting in the war.

SHIELDS: Going backwards...

NOVAK: That's a problem!

(CROSSTALK)

HUNT: When Chuck Hagel and John McCain, Kate, say that that's dead wrong, boy, Republicans...

(CROSSTALK)

SHIELDS: Going back...

O'BEIRNE: They're wrong! They're wrong!

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0401/31/cg.00.html

The website that first started bringing attention to the statement:

Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry: http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.org/

The collection of documents from the “Sixties Project” hosted at the University of Virginia at Charlottesville:

http://lists.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Primary/Winter_Soldier/VVAW_entry.html

John Kerry’s Statement to the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations:

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1062502/posts

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Posted by: Jim T. on February 7, 2004 09:09 PM

My Uncle John is 80 now, and still a big hale hoss of a man. Does his calisthenics every morning with his All-Bran. He was an infantryman in WWII and Korea, then he was a Green Beret trainer in Vietnam. He swears to me he never saw a soldier in Nam who wasn't tight and focused. I watched Platoon with him and he cried bullshit. If there was dope smoking and disintegration of the chain of command it must have been buried deep, because it didin't happen on his watch. He said the American soldier in Nam was the same American soldier we all know.

Posted by: Velociman on February 7, 2004 09:30 PM

Velociman:

http://www.richmond.edu/~ebolt/history398/JohnKerryTestimony.html

I won't vouch for it's accuracy, but it's there. Personally I think Kerry did too much acid.

In any case, what a clusterfuck American politics has become. I'm so sick and disgusted with it that I think this may be the first year in 23 years that I don't bother to vote. A pox on both their houses.

Andy

Posted by: Andy on February 8, 2004 12:19 AM

Try doing a search on the "Winter Soldier" investigation in which Kerry participated. Kerry was basing HIS comments on the comments of at least 100 soldiers from a variety of service branches who testified in Detroit in 1971. This is why he was asked to testify before congress.

Now, I'm no big fan of Kerry's, but I think this deserves to be covered with some semblance of impartiality. If Kerry is a liar, so are at least 100 vets who testified there.

I wasn't there. But it seems that there are quite a few guys who were who remember it differently than the "vets against kerry."

Posted by: spirit_grrrl on February 9, 2004 11:39 AM

The Winter Soldier Investigation

This site includes testimony delivered there, including the names, rank, and branch of service of the personnel who testified.

Posted by: spirit_grrrl on February 9, 2004 11:41 AM

Spirit, a significant percentage of those who testified either never served at all or were not anywhere near the locations they claimed at the time they claimed.Do a quick search on Stolen Valor. I don't have the author's name off the top of my head, he was one of the men behind the Viet Nam Memorial in Dallas, TX.
I was in that war, I did my job and came home with a few scars and a permenent bad attitude but what I wasn't was a war criminal. Kerry got an early out and came home and slandered everyone who's ever worn the uniform of the United States.
If Kerry were laying in front of me with his eyebrows on fire I wouldn't bother peeing in his face.

Posted by: Peter on February 9, 2004 05:31 PM

Actually, I think I understand what you're saying. I worked for a law enforcement agency for several years, and although I knew there were a few bad apples out there, and hated the hell out of anyone who tarnished the badge, the overwhelming majority of the guys I worked with were heroes...in the truest sense. Just never having heard this, it isn't my inclination to jump off and assasinate someone' s character. There are always two sides to a story.

Posted by: spirit_grrrl on February 9, 2004 06:57 PM

Kerry is so 'very.' I'm not voting for some clown who looks like a basset hound wearing a $75 wig, whose spoiled wife makes Howard Dean look sane.

Fucking democraps act like aristocrats when they're not playing Santa Claus with OUR money. Fuck every last one of them with a dull pickaxe.

Posted by: Horse with no-- on February 9, 2004 11:02 PM

The larger issue is that Kerry purpoted to represent the vast majority of all Vietnam veterans and at the least implied the widespread practive of war crimes and other atrocities. In doing so, he slandered the good names and honorable service of many fine Americans who never came close to committing such acts.

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