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November 09, 2003

okay, i'll tell you

I received this email from Chris:

Hi,

I grew up in NY, though now live in eastern PA. Consequently, I have no
idea as to why people still carry confederate flags. As I understand it, people in the south tend to be very patriotic and fond of our United States, so I presume that it's not from any separatist impulse.

If you had a minute to explain this cultural phenomenon, I would be very grateful.

Thanks,
-Chris

I've listened to Jesse Jackson and other race-baiting assholes call the Confederate flag a symbol of racism. I've also seen hooded members of the Ku Klux Klan waving that flag as they behave as race-baiting assholes. I see very little difference between the two, and they BOTH defile that flag.

I took the scenic route back from north Georgia last weekend and as I drove through small Southern towns along the way, I noticed something. Almost every one has a monument to fallen Confederate soldiers. The South bled hard in that war. Then, when the South lost, the carpetbaggers came to rub salt in the wounds during Reconstruction.

I live in the only part of the United States that EVER was conquered and occupied by an invading army. That crap may have happened over 150 years ago, but memories live long in the South. We still sit on the front porch, drink sweet tea and talk about great-grandpa and great-great grandma and smile at the memories.

We remember. Most of the Southern men who died in that war were not rich, they didn't own slaves and they followed Lee, Jackson and Longstreet out of loyalty to the South. They were sons and grandsons of men who fought the British in the Revolutionary War. They believed in THEIR RIGHTS and didn't want a strong federal government telling them how to behave. They were willing to fight and die for those beliefs.

That flag is not a symbol of racism. Only a fuckhead such as Jesse Jackson or some sheet-wearing loon from the KKK sees it as such, and both have a vested interest in doing so. They use the flag to further a political agenda. They both make me want to puke.

That flag is a symbol of DEFIANCE. That flag is the symbol of a REBEL, someone who will NOT be a docile member of the herd no matter what price he has to pay. Goddam, but we have too many docile members of the herd in this country today. I refuse to be one. THAT'S why I have that Confederate flag on my truck.

Southern men have represented themselves in our armed forces far out of porportion to the national population ever since that war. Southern boys grow up running the woods and handling guns from an early age. They hit what they aim at, they can build a fire and they know what a long walk in oppressive heat is like. They make damn good soldiers.

And deep in every Southern breast burn memories that can NEVER be erased. We talk a language all our own, we eat food that nobody else does and we HAVE OUR PRIDE. Southern white males are the last minority in the country that "polittically correct" people can insult with impunity and we've had that shit heaped on our heads for a long time.

So, we REBEL. We DEFY.

And we fly the Confederate flag.

If that pisses you off, kiss my Cracker ass. We do that TO PISS OFF people such as you.

Comments

Where's the sound of the Rebel yell?

Posted by: Ms Anna on November 9, 2003 08:03 AM

My God, Rob...you just gave me goosebumps and made my scalp tingle....
You nailed it dead on.
You live it, too.

Posted by: Stevie on November 9, 2003 09:43 AM

Rob
My G-G-Grandfather W H Hubbard, who lived in Smith Cty Tennessee, enlisted in Co "G", 28th Regiment of the Tennessee Volunteers on Mar 1st 1863 for 1 yr.at the age of 35.
He survived that conflict and raised 10 children of which 4 were born after his enlistment was up.
Enlistment Papers

Many people today think that the war between the states was just about slavery only because that's what they have been told. US History is being re written by the NEA, to have our kids grow up "being politically correct", just look at the proposed new history books.
If you want to see the results of our education system today just watch Jay Leno's Jay Walking segments on the tonight show.
They are not just attacking the "Southern Heritage" , but all others that don't conform to their view.

Posted by: skp47101 on November 9, 2003 10:04 AM

"They believed in THEIR RIGHT" to own niggers?

Oh yah, you southereners are a real proud bunch. Like when you plug city folk in the ass like Deliverance maybe.

Anyway, day by day you're precious flag loses another place to fly. Pretty soon it will be outlawed to all.

How do you like them apples? HUH?

BTW - I have confederate flag tiolet paper. I love wiping my ass with it. Go to spencers.com if you want to buy a roll.

See ya later racist asshole!

Posted by: Ralphy on November 9, 2003 10:14 AM

I feel very strongly about this issue. I am not a racist, but I AM a rebel.

That's what that flag means to me.

Posted by: Acidman on November 9, 2003 10:15 AM

Ralphy, assholes like YOU are why I fly that flag. Why don't you come try to wipe your ass on MINE?

I show you some genuine Southern hospitality.

Posted by: Acidman on November 9, 2003 10:17 AM

Ralphy,

Ass-plugging, otherwise known as "The San Fransico Treat", might be a good prescription in your case.

Given that you're clearly talking out of YOUR ASS in your post, such an act might serve to SHUT YOU THE FUCK UP. (grammar intentional, y'all)

I'm not even going to bother to try to educate the likes of you on the debates and issues leading up to the war, nor on the timeline of when the Emancipation Proclamation came into being; (well INTO the war, not before, and SURELY not the cause for the war).

And, if there's one thing I've found that truly defines asswads like you in the dumfuckdonk world of liberalism, it is the prolictivity to ACCUSE the target of your attack with the VERY ACT that you're secretly guilty of.

So, go back to your buttfuckery, moron. Or, as Acidman says.... c'mon and try to wipe your ass on MY flag.

I'd like to see you try.

Jim
Sloop New Dawn
Galveston, TX

ps, I don't, and never have flown the stars n' bars... but i'd FIGHT and DIE to defend the rights of those who do. And if it comes to such a fight, I'd proudly fight and die under that banner. But I'll take out scores of Ralphies as I go. Count on it.


Posted by: Jim on November 9, 2003 10:37 AM

1st National Flag of the Confederacy on my truck....

Posted by: SwampWoman on November 9, 2003 10:50 AM

State's rights, the decline of the agriculture-based economy, slavery, I've heard them all.

While I believe that the Confederate flag is a symbol of racism I stand little or no chance of changing anyone's mind who believes the opposite. Fine.

But what can't be disputed is that the secession of the Southern states was indeed a treasonous act that Jeff Davis and the boys should have been hung for after the fact.

*fan flames, fan flames, fan flames* ;-)

Posted by: glenn on November 9, 2003 10:53 AM

The flag is a sybol of hatred. Listen to all of you spew your hate? Are you really this blid to your ownselves?

At any rate. I'm off to take a nice wet shit and I intend to rub my asshole with your symbol of hate.

Confederacy of sore losers?

Maybe YOU should have picked your own damn cotton.

Posted by: Ralphy on November 9, 2003 11:06 AM

You put it way better than I have been trying to, A-Man. It's time we all stood up for all the flags of the Confederacy, even if it comes to a fight.
It's time for two Americas. Theirs, and ours.
And I can prove that there was no treason involved in the actions of Jefferson Davis, nor any other Southern leader. Secession was legal then, and ought to be legal now.

Posted by: Stoney on November 9, 2003 11:17 AM

Oddly, the southerners who owned a lot of slaves were exempt from military service. Southerners were not fighting to keep slaves, they were fighting because, in the words of one POW, 'y'all are down here'.

Posted by: Peter on November 9, 2003 11:22 AM

I think you described the Rebel Flag and why we fly it the best I have heard as of yet. A girl from CA asked me my opinion on the new/old flag for GA and I told her "You REALLY don't want me to do that" because I knew she wouldn't understand. Maybe I should direct her curiosity about the flag and why we fly it to your blog...that would explain it all.

Posted by: Chaos on November 9, 2003 11:34 AM

Good explanation! And one I have always inherently understood. It's to *some people* that it is (still) racist, but that is only one interpretation; one that surely most folks who display the flag don't intend.

Posted by: Jay Solo on November 9, 2003 12:17 PM

Those who think the war was all about the oiiiill....[slap] excuse me, slavery, should consider this quote by someone who was quite keenly aware of the issues: "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that." That was Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: Steve Teeter on November 9, 2003 02:14 PM

We have 87,525 governments in this country. An old document had this as a reason to throw out a government:
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

There's more, but what's the point? Anyone who believes the South was wrong doesn't like this part, either:
... whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Posted by: Aunty on November 9, 2003 04:21 PM

S. Teeter,

What does A. Lincoln's comments have anything to do with the Southern states deciding to secede? His comments have absolutely no bearing on the specific motivation for the Southern states to secede.

Posted by: glenn on November 9, 2003 05:25 PM

Glenn,

There is no doubt that slavery was at the root of the cause of the civil war, but it was caused by a myriad of reasons, and an unlikely set of political events.

Slavery was legal in all 13 original colonies, but had largely disappeared from the North, and was largely prevalent in the South, just before the civil war. Before the outcome of the civil war, slavery was enshrined in the US Constitution, and not just because of Southern delegates, but because of Northern ones too, since there was still much money to be made in the slave trade by the shipping industry, that was of course predominantly in the North (importation of slaves was banned some time before the civil war, but loosely enforced).

It was really an argument about State's rights that started the Civil War. Lincoln just used the issue of abolition, to regain support for what was becoming a very unpopular war, very late in the prosecution of the war. Lincoln himself was a racist, and did not believe the negro, would ever be an equal to the white man (this fact is supported by many of his writings).

What's really ironic about the Civil War is that no amount of legal action or activism on the part of the abolitionist in the North, could have ever brought about the end of slavery, as quickly as the prosecution of the Civil War did. The combination of political events of the time (to many to list here) along with Southern pride and willfulness to secede, in the end hastened the end of slavery.

Posted by: Blowback on November 9, 2003 06:41 PM

Stoney says "It's time for two Americas." So this Southern White Trash is ready to split the country over a flag? No wonder you lost the war. No one has a lick of sense.

Posted by: Ralphy on November 9, 2003 08:27 PM

IMO, the "flag flap" is nothing more than an assertion of power by the NAACP and the people who support this extremely racist group. In the process of their "assertion of power", the miseducated are taking away my freedom of speech, freedom of choice and freedom of expression. Blacks who want the flag to be banned have no regard for my civil rights. Yes, white people have civil rights too. I mean for real--what will they gain by removing the flag from public display??? What the hell will they gain??? Tell me!! They will gain nothing but power. That is the bottom line.

The flag is not a racist symbol for the people who truly honor it. It only becomes a symbol of racism when the fanatic white supremacy groups use the flag to further their hate agenda. There will always be groups like that. White and black.

People who honor the Confederate Battle Flag do so because of heratige. The Confederate Battle Flag was a military banner. Not a banner of hate. My g-g-g-grandfather fought in the Battle of Gettysburg. He lost an arm fighting for what he belived in. He did not own slaves. I honor him and the thousands of other soldiers, white and black, who fought for what they believed in when I display the flag.

If the Confederate Flag continues to be trampled on and is allowed to be removed from public display it will not stop there. The assertion of power will continue until ALL of our freedoms are taken away - one by one - because someone might be offended. You can bet your sweet ass that if the flag is banned where I live, I will fight until I have no breath for my right to display it. I will fight for my freedoms!!!

With all that being said, I attended a Civil War reenactment this weekend and not once did slavery cross my mind. It just isn't an issue with people who hold that flag dear to their hearts. It is not a racist flag!

Posted by: medicmom on November 9, 2003 08:42 PM

And if I might add --------
Ralphy, you are an idiot asshat and I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire!!!!! BAH!!

Posted by: medicmom on November 9, 2003 08:44 PM

Well Medicmom, if "the flag is not a racist symbol" then explain to me why the KKK and Skinheads use it for thier identity? Cat cut your tongue now? HUH?

Posted by: Ralphy on November 9, 2003 09:27 PM

The original purpose of the Confederate Battle Flag has nothing to do with the various miss-uses it has been subjected to by a few miss-guided fanatics. Its use by some far out fanatical group does in no way shape or form change it's original meaning or purpose. For anyone to imply that it does or to claim that they are offended because of how someone else has mis used it is ludicrous and is behavior denoting a state of ignorance or low intelligence (such as yourself RALPHY) on the part of those who make such claims.

MEOW!!!

Posted by: medicmom on November 9, 2003 09:41 PM

Well step out of the deep woods of Arkansas Medicmom and you'll realize that the rest of the country interprets the Confederate flag as much as a symbol of hate as the Swastika. Please explain to me why the KKK and the Skinheads as well as several other hate groups choose YOUR beloved flag as their symbol? Do you think the selection is random? If it's about heritage then why don't black people display it? They've been in the South as long as the whites. Not much too say now huh racist? HUH?

Posted by: Ralphy on November 9, 2003 10:39 PM

"The original purpose of the Confederate Battle Flag has nothing to do with the various miss-uses it has been subjected to by a few miss-guided fanatics."

Sounds like the same spew you hear from the Muslims about terrorist cells.

Posted by: Ralphy on November 9, 2003 11:38 PM

Say every person in this country that owns the Stars and Bars gets rid of it.

Then what? Is that going to put money in my pocket? Take it out of it?

You say neither? Yes, that's right.

So I say fly your flag or don't. Let those who get ticked off about it steam over the long dead institution that it *once* represented. And those of us who couldn't care less what you do as long as you don't step on our toes will argue for your right to fly it.

Posted by: Juliette on November 9, 2003 11:42 PM

I have read all the comments and I have a hard time understanding what the argument is all about. I have never been to the south but went to a high school which was called the rebels. I fly the confederate flag with that symbol in mind. The rebels, I have no hatred, there is plenty of room in the USA for all types of people. That is what that flag means to me rebel freedom. The freedom to have that flag in my home. FREEDOM to be a rebel if only in my heart. You walk in my door that is the first thing you see is my rebel flag which covers the whole wall. I am a rebel who loves my fellow man. How's that answer for ya Ralphy, cause guess what you don't deserve any flag since you know nothing of the meaning of freedom, or what it stands for.

Posted by: Lady on November 10, 2003 12:45 AM

The KKK also miss-uses the cross and the U.S. flag. Does this mean that they should be banned as well? Are they racists symbols just because the KKK uses them at their rallies?

Perhaps I could interest you in reading this and this. Both articles make very good points on the issue of the battle flag. Anyway, I am done arguing with you. There is no point with a closed minded person such as yourself. You have a nice day Ralph. I certaintly will. :)

Posted by: medicmom on November 10, 2003 01:19 AM

I'm a recent immigrant furriner. I have no dog in this fight, but I can see both points of view.

Posted by: Kim du Toit on November 10, 2003 02:25 AM

How come none of you will naswer mt question?

Why is it that hate and supremist groups choose the Confederate flag as their symbol?

Are "y'all" avoiding the truth?

Posted by: Ralphy on November 10, 2003 09:14 AM

All this flag flap crap is made up. Someone decided about 10-12 years ago that we should all be outraged at the sight of the Stars 'n Bars. Before then, even liberals flew it. Just watch "The Last Waltz," the documentary about The Band's last concert. In several interviews the group is sitting in front of a Confederate Battle Flag. Does anyone remember and hue and cry over that? Also, can you imagine anyone, especially a liberal like Joan Baez, doing a song that is sympathetic to the South in post-Civil War America? But nobody blinked an eye when she sang Robbie Robertson's "The Night they Drove Old Dixie Down" back in the '70s (even as she screwed up the words by saying "so much cavalry" when Robbie wrote it "Stoneman's cavalry"; the idiot hadn't even heard of Stoneman). Naw, this is all faked-up outrage designed to keep conservatives on the defensive.

Posted by: rivlax on November 10, 2003 10:29 AM

Alright, Ralphy, I'll answer your direct question with a direct answer.

Why is it that hate and supremist groups choose the Confederate flag as their symbol?

Because they are sick, twisted leeches upon southern society, who do not have the education, intelligence, or wisdom to see the truth, and only see what they want to.

On another note, one does not allow the meaning of one's own symbols to be defined by one's enemies. If one did, then the crucifix would stand for women's oppression, racism, and the total destruction of all governments except the Catholic Theocracy. Therefore the assertions about the meaning of the confederate battle flag by those who hate it have no relevance to anything.

Posted by: Morpheus on November 10, 2003 12:18 PM

Can you answer my question RIVLAX or will you dodge it like the rest?

"Why is it that hate and supremist groups choose the Confederate flag as their symbol?

Are "y'all" avoiding the dirty truth?"

Posted by: Ralphy on November 10, 2003 12:19 PM

The whole confederate Flag issue is soley due to a bunch of Politically correct liberals trying to force their beliefs on the rest of us and using "civil rights" as the means. Its an insult to them, not because of slavery, although they use that as the fighting words, but simply because it is something that celebrates a heritage and history they cannot be a part of.

If you do your research, 1) Blacks did serve in the Confedrate and Union Army, 2) Several Southern Counties seceded from the Confedracy and sided with the Federals (winston County Alabama for one). 3) The only reason slavery was an issue in the covil war at all was due to the effects of emancipation upon the largely agricultural south's economy.

Posted by: Doc on November 10, 2003 12:20 PM

Setting racism/slavery aside for a minute ... I have a question.

What I (grew up in New Jersey, live in Virginia, have been to numerous states in the southeast) don't get is this:

How is the Confederate Flag a symbol of patriotism and not one of treachery? Namely, they seceeded from the Union and fought a war against it for years.

That's, in my mind, about as anti-American as you can get.

But, clearly, you're not anti-American. So how do you reconcile the fact you view yourself as a patriot with your flying the confederate flag?

Posted by: Joe Grossberg on November 10, 2003 03:24 PM

Joe,

I don;t have a dog in this fight, but where in the constitution does it say you can't secede?

(Assuming the traditional norms as to some legitimacy can be found (support by people) and divorce terms can be reached.)

Basically the North said: No. No divorce.
The South said: We beg to differ.

And then affairs of the sort not being settled in courts, there being no official mechanism, and both sides insisting, it turned into a shooting war.

The north was better at it and won.
De facto end of argument.


You will note a definite discretion on the part of North is following up trials for treason.


It was two view of what the US stood for.

As the European newspapers correctly noted. Before the the war they said "The United States ARE..." after it was "The United States IS...."

Posted by: Fred on November 10, 2003 05:30 PM

I found it humorous that not ONE of you out there dared answer this question. Clinton, bing a fellow southerner, musthave taught "y'all" how to dodge questions.

One more try.

"Why is it that hate and supremist groups choose the Confederate flag as their symbol?

Posted by: Ralphy on November 10, 2003 08:39 PM

Somebody DID answer you, you stupid fucking piece of shit. But you ignored it. Too bad. You're a stupid fucking troll, which is why people are ignoring you. Either grow the fuck up or shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Raging Dave on November 10, 2003 09:30 PM

If you change a word or two in your explanation, you'll have an excuse for defending the "resistance fighters" in Iraq.

Posted by: Joseph Hertzlinger on November 10, 2003 10:20 PM

Raging Dave,
Not a one of you has directly answered that question yet. Your reading comprehension must be weak. Please reread your comment and ask yourself who the troll really is? I've seen more wit on the bathroom walls of a truck stop.

Why don't you answer the question Dave?

Posted by: Ralphy on November 10, 2003 10:45 PM

Ralphy,

I've seen your missives on other blogs. Judging from your behavior there and on this blog, I'd say that you're not looking for answers. Not really.

Posted by: Juliette on November 10, 2003 11:30 PM

Go look up Doc's post at 12:20 PM today, you fucking moronic shitheel! Not only are you one of the most stupid, moronic, idiotic, worthless, crack-addled fucking pieces of shit I've ever seen, you're also blind!

Bravo! I never knew that one person could be so fucking useless!

Posted by: Raging Dave on November 10, 2003 11:40 PM

QUESTION: "Why is it that hate and supremist groups choose the Confederate flag as their symbol?

ANSWER: My first thought is to say that they (mis) use the flag as their symbol because they are idiot, racists. But actually, I have no idea why hate and supremist groups choose the Confederate flag as their symbol. I have never asked them.

Ralphy, why don't you inquire about the use of the US flag and the cross by these hate groups as well?

Posted by: medicmom on November 11, 2003 08:53 AM

Ralphy,

I've read all of the comments to Acidman's blog entry and your comments stick out like a SORE thumb. Where did all of YOUR hatred come from? As Acidman put it, "I am not a racist but I AM a Rebel. That's what the flag means to me."

Putting the Confederate Battle Flag aside for a moment, I'm sick and tired of feeling that I have to apologize for being Southern. Not only has the Confederate Battle Flag come under fire, our heritage and our history are the real targets. It has suddenly become fashionable and politically correct to trample on all things Southern.

Open your mind a little and start reading the history behind the War of Northern Aggression. There were many, many factors that brought about the secession of the Southern states. Slavery was not the only issue so stop trying to make it the ONLY issue.

BTW, did you know that good ole Abe was a white supremist? As a matter of fact, good Ole Abe wanted to ship all former slaves to Africa!

I personally hate the KKK but why do you single out the Rebel Flag as being their only icon? If you will go to google.com and do a search for images and KKK, you will see pictures of KKK gatherings and marches. You will also see the flag of the United States of America hoisted above the heads of these idiots. You will also see the Christian cross. Do you condemn the American Flag and the Christian Cross as icons of the KKK? Heck no!!! You have chosen the Rebel Flag as the object of your hatred.

Regarding slavery, slavery has been a part of history for as long as history has been recorded. We didn't invent it. Thankfully, the civilized world finally decided that slavery was morally wrong. No person should be enslaved by another.

So don't point your finger at the South and the Rebel Flag as being symbols of hatred and racism. You have given us a large enough dose of hatred to last a lifetime in your comments.

Posted by: flax on November 11, 2003 09:44 AM

Thank you medicmom for trying to answer the question.

Flax, you brought some good points to the table but I don't buy it. Somehow I bet you wish you picked your own cotton too. Northern agression? Gimme abreak. You lack objectivity.

Ragin Dave,
In between the cussing idd you have a point to make>? Why don't YOU answer my question Dave?

Posted by: Ralphy on November 11, 2003 09:58 AM

Because it's already been asked and answered, you stupid shithead. Also, since I live nowhere near the Mason/Dixon line, I really don't give a shit what flag they fly. But I enjoy verbally abusing idiots like you.

Posted by: Raging Dave on November 11, 2003 12:02 PM

Dave,
You refuse to answer the question because YOU are afraid I'll out debate you. You are afraid of being embarrassed in front of your peers, like a timid teenager. Why don't YOU put your money where your mouth is Dave? I do. What are you afraid of?

You claim Doc answered the question? Go reread the post or have someone with an IQ read it to you and explain it. NOWHERE did Doc ever address my question about why hate groups use the confederate flag as their symbol. You failed reading comprehension didn't you?

And why do you keep falling on Doc to speak for you anyhow? Are you unable to freely form your own thoughts? Can't you think for yourself or is Doc always your crutch.

Put up or shut up Dave.

Posted by: Ralphy on November 11, 2003 12:39 PM

Morpheus answered it:

"Because they are sick, twisted leeches upon southern society, who do not have the education, intelligence, or wisdom to see the truth, and only see what they want to."

Doc gave you an answer, Lady gave you an answer, hell, just about everybody here gave you some answer or another, but you choose to ignore them because you're a fucking brainless troll. Too fucking bad. I've already said I don't give a shit what flag they fly. Obviously you ignored that as well. Too fucking bad.

And when are you going to start answering questions yourself, you dolt? Put up or shut up yourself. Juliette nailed you:

"I've seen your missives on other blogs. Judging from your behavior there and on this blog, I'd say that you're not looking for answers. Not really."

Now fuck off, troll.

Posted by: Raging Dave on November 11, 2003 12:58 PM

"And when are you going to start answering questions yourself, you dolt? Put up or shut up yourself. Juliette nailed you:

"I've seen your missives on other blogs. Judging from your behavior there and on this blog, I'd say that you're not looking for answers. Not really.""

That was a comment, not a question Dave. Good grief. I don't have to work hard to make you look stupid, you do it yourself.

And once again, good job dodging the question. And once again, you couldn't think for yourself when you quoted Morpheus.

Your your own worst enemy. No wonder you are afraid to enagage me in debate but would rather just insult. You are incapable of rational debate.

Posted by: Ralphy on November 11, 2003 01:03 PM

Debate, little Ralphy? Debate what? The rebel flag? I've already stated that I don't give a shit about it. I don't care who flies it, who wears it, who complains about it, or who owns it. I don't give a shit. Why the hell should I debate?

Oh, did you have another point? Where? When? No, you didn't have another point, you're just another pathetic fuckwit. I'm sorry that you're too fucking stupid to see the questions that have been directed at you, but I'm not going to waste time spoon-feeding you information just so that your purile little mind can slowly let it sink in.

Posted by: Raging Dave on November 11, 2003 01:22 PM

"I've already stated that I don't give a shit about it. I don't care who flies it, who wears it, who complains about it, or who owns it. I don't give a shit."

Then do us a favor Raging Dunce and shut the fuck up. Barney Gumble makes more sense than you.

Posted by: Ralphy on November 11, 2003 10:12 PM

Do you have some sort of special connection with Barney, "Ralphy"? Oh, wait, you're both pathetic gutless cowards, who troll other blogs because you're too weak and cowardly to do anything else.

Just keep it coming, "Ralphy", and I'll keep giving you the verbal bitchslapping you deserve. You're fucking useless. You're a whiny, spineless, cowardly, pathetic fuckwit, and I love pointing it out at every opportunity.

Posted by: Raging Dave on November 12, 2003 09:54 AM

If you had the reading comprehension of a ten year old you'd have understood that I was comparing YOU to Barney "Bendover" Gumble.

So by your own nitwit logic, you just explained to me that you, like Barney Gumble, are a "pathetic gutless coward."

I'm certain that everyone is tired of our attempts at the last word. So you can have it-and we can stop wasting bandwidth with your junior high banter. So make the last one good Raging Dunce and try your hardest not to say shit or fuck.

Posted by: Ralphy on November 12, 2003 03:31 PM

What's the matter, "Ralphy"? Is your mommy taking the computer away from you? I wouldn't be suprised, since you've shown that you're nothing but a worthess pathetic fucking bitch. Getting tired of the bitchslapping "Ralphy"? Don't worry you gutless wonder, I'll be sure to give you your daily dose. You'll be coming over to my blog soon enough for your daily cut-and-paste job, probably giggling and drooling on yourself the entire time. And I'm sure that this won't be the last time I bitchslap you, since you can't seem to stay away. Maybe one day you'll actually grow a fucking brain, but I doubt it.

Posted by: Raging Dave on November 12, 2003 04:03 PM

It's time for you fuckin retards out there to know a girls point of view of the Confederate flag. The Confederate flag means more than being racist and not everyone uses it for just that reason. You assholes who are against it have NO CLUE! Everyone has an opinion and you all need to let that be...I mean damn, no one is actually right or wrong here that's why people debate! I find this website looking for something else and I start to read it and I get PISSED because you idiots are clueless...ever hear people call it a REBEL FLAG?!?!? What in the fuck do you think that means...you honestly think it stands for the same thing too?? I have nothing against black people and if I did it'd be natural because I'd probably be against whites for the same reason cause we are practically all the same...just some of us have it bad. Now listen, I'll admit, their are many people out there who use it for a symbol of racism BUT that's what they want to do...remember, I mean WE do live in the US and WE do have freedom. It's not like black people don't have a symbol for hating white people...ever think about that? No because people like you are too busy arguing about other stupid shit! You all need to be more worried about gangs and shit...oh wait a second...the majority of gangs, let's see, don't you think guns and murder is worse than symbolizing a FLAG?? Let it go...history may repeat itself but shit, it's no wonder it does because people like you WONT STOP LIVING IN THE PAST! Things have changed...people have changed, stop assuming everyone is the same and everyone has the same beliefs!


Because you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run,
cause we're them ole boys raised on shotguns.
We say grace and we say mam
and if you aint into that we don't give a damn.
We came from the West Virginia coal mine's
and the Rocky Mountains and the Western skies
and we can skin a buck, we can run a trout line
and a countryboy can survive, country folks can survive.
-Hank

Come on...you all are going to let a 15 year old girl tell you this shit?? ...you better believe it

Posted by: DixieGurl on December 8, 2003 01:14 PM

It's time for you fuckin retards out there to know a 15 year olds point of view of the Confederate flag. The Confederate flag means more than being racist and not everyone uses it for just that reason. You assholes who are against it have NO CLUE! Everyone has an opinion and you all need to let that be...I mean damn, no one is actually right or wrong here that's why people debate! I find this website looking for something else and I start to read it and I get PISSED because you idiots are clueless...ever hear people call it a REBEL FLAG?!?!? What in the fuck do you think that means...you honestly think it stands for the same thing too?? I have nothing against black people and if I did it'd be natural because I'd probably be against whites for the same reason cause we are practically all the same...just some of us have it bad. Now listen, I'll admit, their are many people out there who use it for a symbol of racism BUT that's what they want to do...remember, I mean WE do live in the US and WE do have freedom. It's not like black people don't have a symbol for hating white people...ever think about that? No because people like you are too busy arguing about other stupid shit! You all need to be more worried about gangs and shit...oh wait a second...the majority of gangs, let's see, don't you think guns and murder is worse than symbolizing a FLAG?? Let it go...history may repeat itself but shit, it's no wonder it does because people like you WONT STOP LIVING IN THE PAST! Things have changed...people have changed, stop assuming everyone is the same and everyone has the same beliefs!


Because you can't stomp us out and you can't make us run,
cause we're them ole boys raised on shotguns.
We say grace and we say mam
and if you aint into that we don't give a damn.
We came from the West Virginia coal mine's
and the Rocky Mountains and the Western skies
and we can skin a buck, we can run a trout line
and a countryboy can survive, country folks can survive.
-Hank

Posted by: DixieGurl on December 8, 2003 01:16 PM

sorry for posting it twice...got too pissed...missed it once read it again

Posted by: DixieGurl on December 8, 2003 01:20 PM

For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

Posted by: Foong Chwee Sze on December 20, 2003 07:34 PM

Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes.

Posted by: Brown Heidi on January 9, 2004 09:53 AM

I was born in a family were we have a strong pride for our heritage. I keep my confederate flag waving, not because i have a hate against people but because it is my heritage. and absolutly NOTHING will make me back down from that.

Posted by: IXI SouthernPride on February 25, 2004 05:48 PM

Don't worry that other people don't know you; worry that you don't know other people.

Posted by: Neufeld Josh on March 17, 2004 03:27 AM

Government is too big and too important to be left to the politicians.

Posted by: Brisk Danyel on April 28, 2004 10:07 AM

The greatest administrators do not achieve production through constraints and limitations. They provide opportunities.

Posted by: Legesse Dan on May 19, 2004 01:27 PM
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