June 13, 2003
from my comments
Yep, I am still picking thorns out of my feet from walking barefoot through the blackberry vines the other day in pursuit of the snake on my back porch, but I have another thorn that I just can't get rid of. It is IN MY ASS and it becomes really inflamed every time I read shit like this:
Wellfare or no, some hard working people depend on that "refund". It's what allows us acushion at the end of the year to actually do something nice for our kids and it's a hell of incentive to keep working harder. Not everyone who gets a tax break is sponge. And not every person who makes 100-150K works hard. Remember, that corporate America gets more "refunds" and "tax breaks" than anyone else.
Anybody who depends on a "refund" of somebody else's money to "do something nice for our kids" is a goddam parasite. I don't give a shit if you "need" the money. IT ISN'T YOURS! You didn't earn it. And how the hell getting something for nothing inspired you to "keep working harder" is a mystery to me. You should be cheering, goading and demanding OTHER PEOPLE to work harder. After all, they're doing it for YOU.
I do know that my tax refund goes straight into the economy as soon as I get it, whether to pay of a bill, or buy my wife something nice, or even to buy something nice for myself, someone else just got my tax break.
Whether you get a check at the end of the year or not, everyone benefits in some manner from tax rebates.
BTW, do elected officials pay taxes on thier salaries? Just wondering.
Cassidy probably wonders why he never won "life's lottery." I'll tell him right now. CASSIDY, YOU ARE AS DUMB AS A CAN OF DIRT. YOU HAVE SHIT FOR BRAINS!!!
"I do know that my tax refund goes straight into the economy." My aching ass. That money was already in the economy and it would have stayed right where it was except for the fact that GOVERNMENT TOOK IT AWAY FROM THE PERSON WHO EARNED IT AND GAVE IT TO YOUR SORRY ASS. You think people who earn their own money don't spend it? Only fucking deadbeat parasites like YOU put money into the economy? Bite me, you asshole. You suck on the teats of the government sow. You don't put money into the economy. You TAKE!
Also, I know that as I progress in my career, I make more money. I make more money, no tax refund. This motivates me and people like me to work harder to pay off as much as possible, so that the tax break is utilized in the most effective way possible. As of now, outside the cars, I'm less than 5K in debt. The tax refund is a godsend. My last tax return paid of 4-6 bills completely (I forget how many). It is a good thing for honest people.
Yes, I can see how you and people like you are motivated by free money to work harder until there is no more free money for you, and YOUR money starts going to pay parasites like you are now, when you're not a parasite anymore. That makes perfect sense to me. If you are $5,000 in debt (outside of the CARS), you are living far beyond your means and you expect ME to pay for your personal lack of discipline. "Honest" people don't demand handouts to pay for their personal fuckwittery. You do. And I resent that money you get for free being taken from ME at the point of a gun by the Federal government. Kiss my Cracker ass, you parasite.
I've got to take this missive apart piece by piece:
Like I mentioned earlier, I don't know much about the upper ranges of the tax code.
Don't bother your pointed little head. Trust me. You'll NEVER have to worry about the upper ranges of the tax code.
I would like to pose a question, though, just for thought. (Outside of the ones I allready asked, just looking for information)
You wouldn't recognize a thought if it walked up and slapped you in the head with a two-by-four. The "thoughts" you thought you already posted prove that fact.
I get taxes taken out of my paycheck every month. I get a refund every year, that usually exceeds what I paid in over the year, which I've allready explained.
That makes you a PARASITE, which I've already explained.
Millions of Americans use that for good.
Millions of other Americans could use it just as well, for just as much "good" because it was THEY'RE FUCKING MONEY before you got your parasitic hands on it. It's better because YOU spend it instead of them. You NEED IT more than they do? Fuck you.
Now, is the problem here with wellfare in general or in how the system is set up. I don't like the current state of wellfare.
Why not? You collect other people's money from it, being the leech you are.
I've said before about my opinion on the majority of Americans. Objectively, though, it would be ethically repugnant and socially shortsighted not to help those who are less fortunate. My personal problem is how the system is utilised and manipulated, but a wellfare system to me is a good idea.
OF COURSE a "welfare system" is a good idea to YOU! A welfare system is ALWAYS a good idea to the parasites to collect without paying into it. The worker bees, on the other hand, who see 38% of their incomes vanish into the federal maw only to be shit out in little "refund" pellets collected by dung beetles like YOU find the system "ethically repugnant and socially shortsighted."
Would you have a problem with it if the system was set up to encourage job training and contribution over lifestyle sustainment?
Just a thought.
You don't have thoughts. I believe we already covered that issue. I have no idea what that last incoherent sentence was supposed to mean, but I know what it really means. I DESERVE YOUR MONEY. GIVE IT TO ME!
You don't deserve a fucking dime of MY MONEY, Cassidy. The fact that you get it chaps my Cracker ass.
Besides, I thought I told you to get your parasitic, blood-sucking, welfare-taking ass off of my blog. Ain't no free money here. What are YOU doing still hanging around?
He means well, A-man, but he's just confused. Chalk it up to the current state of public education.
I chalk it up to someone being taught that he DESERVES something for nothing. He wasn't raised the way I was.
The problem with the whole damn system is that I pay into it all year, to get a penny back at the end.
Let me keep MY money all year in interest bearing accounts, spend it on whatever I damn well please, and when the tax man sends me a bill, I'll pay it.
Same with the rest of the involuntary crap that gets gutted from my paycheck, I'd rather keep my money and spend it as I see fit.
The worse part is they don't all know it's welfare, why don't they care how they get it?
I heard a guy today who sounded very informed but he was way off , he said, "POOR shouldn't pay as much in taxes cause they don't use things they're taxed for as often!
ie: rich people drive, fly more need/use roads and airports more. Now why didn't you and I think of that?!...*L* Still, it's good to get into other peoples mindset so we know what points to make.
totally unrelated, IF you guys get a mosquito bite or sun burn those new aloe gel sprays are WONDERFUL...I got too much sun, and I used that stuff and felt total relief..
I was reading ole Cassidy last night and I was like WTF???
There is a valid arguement for pay as you go taxation, I learnt it in macro and micro economics.
Problem is... what fire department will respond when your neighbor's house is burning down? If they all don't pay, do you watch your house go up in smoke?
Some pubic services have to be there for the safety of everyone, but where to draw the line?
I haven't visited our crappy museum years, yet it's funded with tax money.
THEY'RE FUCKING MONEY
Well, they might be, but I'm pretty sure what you meant was "their fucking money."
Greetings from the grammar police...
I'm new at this, could someone please tell me if Pascale deCritical is an idiot, or has nothing better to contribute that a typo, that spell check wouldn't catch?
The tax man takes 38 % of your income Mr. Acidman ? You live in paradise. Here in EUnuchistan, Belgian subdivision, they take about 55 % of my income to spend on welfare and other wasteful government programs.
Pascale, you're supposed to be catching MY typos.
If I keep having to find them myself, you're fired.
Love your site! Who the fuck is Cassidy? I take it that you are a painter, Acidman?
That's it! It's official!! ACIDMAN RULES AND I LOVE 'IM!!!
And, Larry- Acidman IS an artist, but he isn't a painter.
Last time I checked, A-Man was living in a cracker house.
Suppose cracker houses are paradise by today's standards?
I seem to remember a few people, one in sports, one in music, who protested, the demanded taxes and were damn near ruined.
What can you do?
Looking for an offshore cracker house
Cassidy seems not to know the difference between a tax refund and a tax rebate. Rebate(in this context)=Welfare. Refund=You just let the gummint use your $ for a year, interest-free.
Larry, it's Pascale's job to keep A-man on his toes. He's a freakin lit major, fer chrissakes!
So, let me get this straight -
"As of now, outside the cars, I'm less than 5K in debt."
So how much is his debt WITH the cars? You know what I have found? $500 cars start and run nearly as well as $30,000 cars. And you don't have a monthly payment. And if you need a catastrophic repair, you sell it the junkyard and go get another $500 car instead.
Acidman has nailed this one - this "Cassidy" is expecting people to make up for his lack of discipline. And I daresay that Neal Boortz nailed it with his missive about lack of economic education in this country.
Cassidy never stops to think how much better off he COULD be if we would stop taking wealth from those who create it. If we are not shoving a gun in their ribs and confiscating their wealth, they are out there putting money to work. That means that people like Cassidy - I know this is a stretch - could have better jobs to choose from.
But it's all soooooo easy to just have the government do the mugging for you, isn't it?
I work for state govt, and yes, I pay taxes. Why do people think we get some free ride? And I can't stand this idea that that refund is "free money." You freaking idiot... it's your money and if you were smart, you would adjust your withholding so the govt didn't get so much. We deal all day long with idiots who don't understand that they can control (to a degree) how much money gets withheld. Giving the full amount to the govt so you can get a "refund" four months after the end of the year is stupid. And anyone who counts on that "refund" for anything ought to have his head examined. It's not a gift. It's your freaking money that you allowed the govt to have for 16 months. Geez.
You need a hit in the head from a clue-by-four.
The "refund" we're talking about here is the one generated by the tax cut. i.e.: You payed in more than the new tables required, so if you were paying enough to break even at the end of the year, Uncle Sammy will be sending you a nice check to cover the difference.
What Cassidy is all happy about is that he's going to get MORE money from Uncle Sammy than he USUALLY gets, and what he USUALLY gets is MORE than he had witheld in the FIRST PLACE. Ergo: redistribution of wealth from those who EARN money, to those who DON'T. AKA: WELFARE.
And he thinks this is MARVELOUS.
And Acidman righteously bitch-slapped him for it. Mmmmkay?
I had a good feeling about this page when I originally linked it on my page a few weeks back
Today, my good feeling was founded.
No, I don't need a clue. I just need to learn to write my comments so you can understand how frustrated I get with Cassidy-types. I am sorry I confused everyone with my frustration. The man with the low pH has it right, and I am as fed up with the Cassidy people sucking off my dollars as everyone else. Again, sorry for for the confusion. My bad.
Much of Cassidy’s comments were in response to my comments on the original post. I was hesitant to get into a pissing match with him because this isn’t my blog. Thanks for setting this crack baby straight, AcidMan.
On a post in my blog concerning this very thing I had a wish for the Republicans to “sack up” and AcidMan left a comment to the effect that politicians “sacking up” is something that will never happen. It’s true.
As much as the current tax scheme is about collecting money it is also, I’m afraid, about wealth redistribution and social engineering. The people in our government try to manipulate the social structure/taxation scheme much like Alan Greenspan tries to manipulate the economy.
Welfare is a concept that is not so bad if it is meant to help those who can’t and encourage (kick in the ass) those who won’t. The problem is that politicians use welfare as a means of “buying” votes and demonizing the other party. In my way of thinking the only solution is for government to get its hands out of the welfare business.
Where I grew up you don’t see many people at all on welfare; at least you didn’t used to, and there were plenty of people in need. Most work was seasonal; logging, and things could get tight, especially with the fucking eco-nazi movement running rampant. The point being that people had a way of taking care of those in need. It was easier than getting help from the government anyway. No one went hungry and no one froze. Also, no one was a pawn in a social engineering, econo-nazi, wealth distribution, class warfare, vote buying scheme either.
You are the fucking man! Right on!!!