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June 10, 2003Identity theftI have a problem with this and I do not believe that it is an amusing situation. If another "Acidman" starts blogging tomorrow, I'm going to be pissed about it, especially when he takes a lot of work I'VE DONE for the past eighteen months and tries to suck it off. This is the kind of hit-whoring thing that pissed me off so badly a couple of weeks ago. Got-damn! We're getting Elvis Impersonators in blogdom anymore. That's as bad as that rattlesnake on my back porch this evening. Plagarists! I never put moxie on my blogroll, because she and I do not blog the same way. I read her a lot, but she's just not running my kind of blog, and I suppose the same thing applies to me. I've talked to her on the phone, but I've never made her blogroll, either. That's fine. At least I know who Moxie is and she knows who Acidman is, too. We aren't required to LIKE each other. But dammit, we ought to know exactly who it is we disagree with. Somebody stealing her name is flat-out wrong. I don't think it's funny, either. I don't believe that her umbrage over the affair is unjustified. Moxie has paid her dues as a blogger. She's been doing it for a long time, in cyber years. She has been "Moxie" since she started and she's built an audience through hard work and constant blogging. Someone right off the banana boat trying to steal her work and her name makes me want to puke. It takes some kind of nerve to do that. Let me conjure some Acidman words to describe such a person: "cocksucker," "asswipe," "dickhead," "fucktard," "belly-crawling thief," and "complete shitheel." I could go on, but I won't. Let me see another "Acidman" on the net and see how I react. I'll find the sumbitch and shoot him.
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The MoxiePop changed her name from Veronnika to capitalize on Moxie.nu's success. She's a cam whore turned blogger. Posted by: Kevin on June 10, 2003 07:08 PMI get as worked up about this as I do about Spike Lee whining. What, "moxie" is copyrighted? We're not talking about "Walt Disney" here....we're talking about a blogger whose readers number in the hundreds not the millions. I suppose I should go kick Jane Galts butt for daring to use Jane when ****I***** had that name for YEARS before her. Bloggers, get over thyselves. Posted by: Jane on June 10, 2003 07:10 PMIf her identity were "stolen" i would agree with you. But that facts don't support that accusation. There's just no evidence of malicious intent. Posted by: craig henry on June 10, 2003 07:10 PMIgnorance is no defense. And daily readers are in the thousands, jane. I worked hard for years to get them. Posted by: moxie on June 10, 2003 07:21 PM"Ignorance is no defense"? Of course it is. If MP really didn't know that there was another Moxie, she didn't steal or imitate anything. Posted by: craig henry on June 10, 2003 07:25 PMI've been blogging as "GORDON" since 1998. That makes me ancient, in blog years. If another "Gordon" popped up, I don't think I have enough hubris to think someone is stealing my name to make themselves famous. I'd just figure that their name was Gordon. Oh yeah, and sometimes my posts would end up on Dennis Miller Live, damned near verbatim. Posted by: GORDON on June 10, 2003 08:07 PMAt least no one has called her the c-word or stupid whore. Gee, at least over here, Acidman doesn't fuck around. Now, please proceed with insulting me. I start to twitch without it. Posted by: Dawn on June 10, 2003 08:28 PMDawn, I TOLD YOU that I had declared peace between you and me. I'm not going to fuck with you anymore, hurt your feelings and say bad things EVER AGAIN. I am a man of my word. Unless you really WANT me to be nasty. I'm good at that. Posted by: Acidman on June 10, 2003 08:39 PMOh, A-man, I didn't mean you. I just figured someone had something crappy to say. I guess I am starting to expect it -geez, I think I need to get out more. Please don't be too nice to me, that would just be weird. Posted by: Dawn on June 10, 2003 08:53 PMHmmm. One of the reasons I go by "McGehee" is that as far as I know I'm the only McGehee with a blog, whereas there seem to be more bloggers named "Kevin" than I ever met in all the years before I started blogging. If another McGehee starts a blog I would hope he would respect the cousin who got here first -- but I can always adjust, as my sig here demonstrates. Posted by: THE McGehee on June 10, 2003 09:20 PMI'm a bit stunned that you're still on this, Moxie, since in the comments of your original post and on other blogs, I've seen you all but admit you were *wrong*, when presented with the facts. Acidman, just for your own edification (and I'm not disagreeing with you, given your interpretation of the situation, just saying that that is not, in fact the situation), moxiepop has blogged as "moxie" for months, and had had no 'collision' with the other moxie (nu) until moxie.nu posted about it. I didn't know moxie.nu existed, either, and I read Glenn Reynolds every day. If I could "miss" her, MoxiePop could too. It's innocent, and there's plenty of room for two Moxies in the blog world. MoxiePop isn't "sucking off" anybody's work. She's just sitting quietly in her little corner of blogdom. I know for a fact that there are more than one 'Lee' in the blogging world, but you don't hear right-thinking's Lee calling a lawyer, do you? If it ever causes Moxie.nu any loss or harm, *THEN* she'd be justified, but so far, it seems like egotistical paranoia. (Sorry, but ti does.) Posted by: Aaron on June 10, 2003 09:36 PMIgnorance is no defense. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the whole point of your accusation that I knew about you, that I was intentionally emulating you, that I was knowingly stealing your readers? So yeah, I'd say the fact that I didn't even know you existed is a pretty good defense. Posted by: moxie on June 10, 2003 09:37 PM"The MoxiePop changed her name from Veronnika to capitalize on Moxie.nu's success. " Moxie.nu knows why I changed my name -- I explained it to her via e-mail. I have a goddamn good reason, and no, that reason isn't actually anyone else's business. Posted by: moxie on June 10, 2003 09:41 PMSigh. Just when you think it's dead. It's been made perfectly clear that this was not a case of identity theft. If you followed the situtation, then you would know that this was all a misunderstanding that should have been cleared up with a simple email exchange. It never should have been an issue. If MoxieNu would do the right thing and at the very least say she was mistaken, if not apologize for accusing someone of identity theft to the world before getting her facts straight this might finally die. Then why doesn't moxie.nu say as much on her site? All she has to do is say she was mistaken and, I don't know, apologize like a grown up? Posted by: moxie on June 10, 2003 09:45 PMThen why doesn't moxie.nu say as much on her site? All she has to do is say she was mistaken and, I don't know, apologize like a grown up? That's what I'm saying.... If MoxieNu would do the right thing and at the very least say she was mistaken, if not apologize for accusing someone of identity theft to the world before getting her facts straight this might finally die.
Brad: That would be the grown up thing to do. If it were going to happen though, don't you think she would've done it already instead of letting the issue sit for a couple of days? Posted by: moxie on June 10, 2003 10:06 PMIf she hasn't done by now then there's no reason to believe she will, unfortunately...And I wasn't saying that....just saying what I've said from the beginning, MoxieNU is the only one who at anytime could have made this thing go away. Instead of a refusal or an apology she thanks her dear friends for mindlessly defending her, even though it was clear she was wrong. Which keeps me thinking that her intent all along was to stir things up. She knew what she was doing from the beginning. OT: It’s a small blogworld we live in. This morning I happened upon Moxiepop’s site via BobtheBear.com. It was the first time that I had seen her site and, damn, I liked it. I read the thread concerning the situation that we are discussing here and went over to Moxie.nu’s site. First time I’d ever seen that site too. By the way, I visit InstaPundit every day and never noticed Moxie.nu’s link there. Of course I have the attention span of a two year old. I don’t know. “Moxie” is a pretty common word. I wouldn’t find it inconceivable to see it used in more than one blog and have it not be a case of identity theft. One is called, simply, Moxie and the other is called Moxiepop. There’s also a Moxiemoron out there. How many blogs use the word “pundit” in their title? Should the original “pundit” be upset? The two sites in question differ hugely in layout, coding, content and personality so I don’t know. I’m wondering if this has all been blown way out of proportion and Moxiepop should be cut a little slack. When I started my web site I did a lot of searching to make sure that the name I was going to use was not currently being used. It meant coming up with something a bit different. In order to come up with something different enough I had to come up with something stupid like Lobowalk. Just food for thought. I know that there's a Guy Montag out there with a blog. I am not that Guy Montag. I've been using this as a "handle" on various political bulletin boards since 1997. However, should I ever decide to start blogging, I solemnly promise the Acidman that I will not use "Guy Montag" as my name. There. Happy? Posted by: Guy Montag on June 11, 2003 07:58 AMGoogle search for "moxie": 102,000 results Have you done an ego search for your blog-name before? Not all of those 11,700 results are about you, Acidman. And most of those 102,000 results are NOT about moxie.nu. There's moxie magazine, moxie films, moxie design, moxie graphix, "angel moxie", "she's got moxie", fashions by moxie, Moxie MMC, moxie films.... get the idea? If you want to be one of a kind and truly original, then you should use your own birth-given full name, no matter how generic it is. You can't accuse someone else of stealing the name Rob Smith if they were given that name at birth. How many people are named Michael Jackson? This blog-ware is getting old. I suggest that the second Moxie use the name MoxiePop to distinguish herself from Moxie, then let's all move on. Nothing to see here. Posted by: sugarmama on June 11, 2003 09:04 AMSugarmama is right. Posted by: Dawn on June 11, 2003 01:50 PMmoxie.nu = self-absorbed pretentious twit with serious delusions of grandeur Who gives a fuck if someone else is named "Moxie"? She really needs to get over herself Posted by: Tex on June 11, 2003 06:21 PMwhat foolishness. Moxie is not a new word, it existed long before either of them did blogs. Should the restaurant chain "Moxies" be suing the asses off them gals for using the name belonging to the restaurant? I've seen another blogger that goes by the name Des, I have seen a Desiree --- should I be going beserk on my blog about that? I think not. Just as I think that there can be more than one Moxie, c'mon people get a grip! Posted by: Desiree on June 11, 2003 09:54 PMmoxiepop kicks ass. that is all. Posted by: John Mays on June 19, 2003 02:55 PMwhere has MoxiePop gone? Posted by: wondering on June 23, 2003 06:00 PMyah, where is moxiepop? Post a comment
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